Translation Thread

[Jason]

ん〜。「気づく」の意味は、「pay attention」とちょっと違うと思う。こんな風に使えるかどうか私にはよくわからん。「to come to realize, notice」という感じ。

[Bueller_007]

うん、分かった。

さらに問題があるよ。　この文ははっきり理解できない。「いや、いいんだ。気にしないで。それを気付かずに料理したパパも同じだから。」

文脈は　ぱぱが新しいレシピを作ろうとすると、失敗した。違い材料を買ちゃったから。パパは息子に謝ると、息子が前記を言った。

英語では、多分"No, it's okay, don't worry about it. It's like you to not pay attention when you're cooking."という意味だろう。　

ね？

ありがとう！

Personally, I would say:
いや、いいんだ。気にしないで。それを気付かずに料理したパパも同じだから。
No, it's okay. Don't worry about it. Because you, having inadvertently cooked up this slop for dinner, have to eat it too.

--EDIT--
I don't think you've got your roles right. I Googled for the phrase and found the original context. They bought the ingredients separately. The boy made the mistake of buying lettuce instead of cabbage. And the father cooked it. Although I can't be sure, it looks like the BOY is apologizing to the father (for buying the wrong ingredients.) So:

いや、いいんだ。気にしないで。それを気付かずに料理したパパも同じだから。
No, it's okay. Don't worry about it. Because I cooked it up without noticing [that is was lettuce instead of cabbage] either.

[KeithH]

Could someone please translate 「一面もある」 for me? I've seen this construction a few times but I can't figure it out. Thanks!

[Brody]

Keith, I've never seen that before, so the most I can give you is an educated guess.
一面 means "side" or "aspect" or "facet." も means "also," and ある basically means "is/are." So together, it would be something like, "there is also the aspect of..."

I looked at some sites that had this on it and it seems to make sense. They were either presenting additional information or making a contrast. Post the context you found it in if you want, and I could help you expound on it more.

--EDIT--
I don't think you've got your roles right. I Googled for the phrase and found the original context. They bought the ingredients separately. The boy made the mistake of buying lettuce instead of cabbage. And the father cooked it. Although I can't be sure, it looks like the BOY is apologizing to the father (for buying the wrong ingredients.) So:

いや、いいんだ。気にしないで。それを気付かずに料理したパパも同じだから。
No, it's okay. Don't worry about it. Because I cooked it up without noticing [that is was lettuce instead of cabbage] either.

Once again, Jason-san and Bueller-san, I am indebted to you both for your invaluable help.

I'm pretty sure I have the roles right. The father is always apologizing to the son for mistakes. Also, the father is always referring to himself as　パパ　while the son refers to him as たっくん。 Plus, I'm pretty sure that they were shopping together though I'm glad you pointed that out, Bueller-san, because there's the possibility he sent the son off to fetch stuff. Still, I think it was the father's fault.

Can you use 「なになにも同じだ。」 to get a meaning of "it's like you" ?

thanks!

[Brody]

Eh, ignore my last post please. Bueller-san was correct. It was the son apologizing and the dad saying the sentence.

Sorry!

[Bueller_007]

Could someone please translate 「一面もある」 for me? I've seen this construction a few times but I can't figure it out. Thanks!

面もある (めんもある) is a good one.
As Brody suggested, it basically means: "side"
いい面もある: "there is also a good side", "it's not all bad", etc.
悪い面もある: "there is also a bad side", "it's not all good", etc.

[KeithH]

Ok, another one - what does 「新居」 mean? I was hoping it meant "new home" as in "I'm moving to a new home."

[Jason]

Ok, another one - what does 「新居」 mean? I was hoping it meant "new home" as in "I'm moving to a new home."

According to EDICT, yep, that's what it means.

[Brody]

I understand these sentences mostly but I can't quite get the semantics down:

油をコンロにかけていることを忘れてしまったのだ。油は信じられないくらい大きな炎を上げていた。

At first, I translated this as: "I forgot to put cooking oil on the stove. The oil caused/started an unbelievably huge flame."

Yet, looking at it, if in the first sentence "I" forget to put oil on the stove, how can the oil in the second sentence cause a fire? I then remembered that かけている is kind of tricky to use in that it can mean "did, but didn't finish" or the likes. So I thought maybe the first sentence was "I forgot that I had put oil on the stove." I think this makes sense since the verb is in the progressive tense (かけている), and it would also explain the oil's presence in the second sentence. Also, later he tells of how he frantically threw water on the oil (which only spreads the oil and makes it worse) and casued a huge explosion, so I definitely know there was oil present.

I guess my question boils down to being about the first sentence: 油コンロにかけていることを忘れてしまったのだ。 I originally thought this would be "I forgot to put oil on the stove" but since the verb is ている, does it mean "I forgot about putting oil on the stove (ie I forgot that I put oil on the stove)?

Thanks!

[Jason]

I think your reasoning in your last paragraph is right.

[Brody]

Thanks for the reply.

[Bueller_007]

I think your reasoning in your last paragraph is right.

Yeah.

かける, in this case, doesn't mean half-done. (i.e. 食べかけのご飯=partially eaten rice). It simply means "to put on".

The hint is that "〜ていることを忘れてしまう" is EXACTLY the same in English: "to forget that something is ~~"

If he had forgotten to put the oil on the stove in the first place, he would have said かけ忘れてしまった.

[Brody]

Thanks to both of you. I figured it was "I forgot that I had" but I had never seen that construction before and I didn't want to go off on my own assumption; thanks for confirming it.

[Brody]

Alright! I'm back with yet another question (sorry!)

「それだけで病気だ」

In the sentence: 「それだけで病気だ」と言われている一人っ子だよ。
"I'm an only child about whom it's said '???'"

That's pretty much all the available context. The narrator is explaining about himself. He goes on to say, それだけじゃなくて、ぼくは他にもいろいろ問題をかかえているんだけど。。。 plus, he IS a sickly person. Still, I can't garner any clues from other sentences.


I guess それだけで病気だ means something like, "the only thing is, he's sick"

I know それだけで literally means "with it being just that," so is it implying that he was sick because he was an only child?


Muchas gracias! (woops, wrong language...)

[Brody]

Sorry about replying to my own post. Just doing some thinking out loud.

I think it is conveying the idea "It's bad for a child to be an only child" thus it would translate as "I was an only child about whom it was said "it's bad for him to be an only child."

Could anyone confirm this idea?