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Getting Answer from your teacher!!!!!

Postby jp101crew » October 14th, 2008 3:04 pm

Do you have any questions about basic grammar point?

Naomi-sensei and Eric-sensei decided to make Special Newbie Lesson #26!

Those sensei will get 5 questions related to newbie level grammar from listeners and answer them in Newbie Lesson #26.

We already have two quesitons from lesson comments: 1. need to practice Hiragana? 2.what's the difference between [wa] and [ha], [o] and [wo]?

You can still ask 3 questions more! If you had a question about grammar from Newbie Lesson, this is a chance to get the answer from your teacher.
Please hurry up to drop your question on this topic, we will choose 3 more( or 4 more....)

yoroshiku onegai shimasu!

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Postby Psy » October 14th, 2008 4:04 pm

For #2 you might as well add the difference between [e] and [he]. Same idea, right? I'm not a newbie, but I do have a few suggestions:

1. About the sokuon -- crucially important. Illustrate with stuff like きいて、きて、きって/まって, まて, etc.

2. Pitch accent. I've probably mentioned it to death on the forum but I stand by it-- knowing how words such as 以前 and 依然, 和紙 and 鷲, 雨 and 飴 differ is important for anyone planning to study long-term. There are benefits to this simple awareness-- nip the bud early!

3. Holding the lips steady when pronouncing お so it doesn't turn into an う, as with the American accent.

Admittedly these are on pronunciation rather than grammar, but I believe them to be important, easily understood topics which will aid the learner greatly in developing proper pronunciation.

ご覧いただいてありがとうございました。
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Postby WalterWills » October 14th, 2008 5:10 pm

I think the difference between で and に are often overlooked.
For example, knowing when to say 日本で and 日本に...

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Postby Javizy » October 15th, 2008 1:01 am

I definitely agree with Psy's pronunciation points. Especially since words like 昨日 are broken down き-の-う in the lessons, but pronounced きのお. I was corrected on this long after beginner level, and if it wasn't for shadowing, I'd sound like an idiot by now :?

You might even want to introduce the idea of shadowing briefly as well :wink:

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Postby Psy » October 15th, 2008 5:20 am

WalterWills wrote:I think the difference between で and に are often overlooked.
For example, knowing when to say 日本で and 日本に...


Good point! Especially in why you use で in 公園でコンサートがあります rather than に. The very implication of an action taking place requires で.
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Postby yukiman » October 15th, 2008 10:22 am

WalterWills-san
That difference definitely confuses Japanese learners. Good point!

Javizi-san,
う and お sounds too! Even Japanese native kids sometimes make that mistake.

Psy-san,
Small つ sound, むずいっすよね~! 
I think we need to take close look at more pronunciation stuffs.
but まって/まて、きって/きいて, these are te-form which is not even introduced at Newbie Lessons yet. But that's good point too!

みなさん、どんどん質問(しつもん)、おねがいしまーす! :)

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Postby Naomin » October 16th, 2008 1:37 pm

Explaining the pronunciation such as ii, ei, ou, oo sounds is a good idea!!!
Thanks! :wink:

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Postby WalterWills » October 18th, 2008 2:58 pm

Psy wrote:
WalterWills wrote:I think the difference between で and に are often overlooked.
For example, knowing when to say 日本で and 日本に...


Good point! Especially in why you use で in 公園でコンサートがあります rather than に. The very implication of an action taking place requires で.


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