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TrojanBird
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To be able to orange?

Postby TrojanBird » November 15th, 2014 7:16 am

I was looking at example sentences when I came across this peculiar one.

オレンジは暖かい国で出来る。
Oranges grow in warm countries.

Is this correct? It seems pretty strange as the only verb here is "to be able to do" when speaking of growing oranges.
Am I able to say りんごがする to mean something like "grow apples"?

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Re: To be able to orange?

Postby community.japanese » November 16th, 2014 9:36 am

TrojanBird san,

オレンジは暖かい国でできる is grammatically correct.

Unfortunately りんごがする doesn’t make sense in Japanese.
It means “an apple does”…

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TrojanBird
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Re: To be able to orange?

Postby TrojanBird » November 17th, 2014 8:10 am

Well, could you say りんごができる like in the sentence to mean "to be able to grow apples"?

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Re: To be able to orange?

Postby mmmason8967 » November 17th, 2014 9:26 pm

TrojanBird wrote:Well, could you say りんごができる like in the sentence to mean "to be able to grow apples"?

I don't think so. Here's a somewhat long explanation of why not:-

The verb する doesn't have a potential form. This is a bit like the English verb "to go" in that "to go" doesn't have a past tense: when we need to put "go" in the past tense, we use the past tense of a different verb--the verb "to wend" means much the same as "to go" and its past tense is "went", so we use that for the past tense of "to go". Similarly, できる means "able to do" and so is used as the potential form of する.

However, できる has other meanings in addition to "able to do". It also means to be made, to be built, to be raised and to grow. So できる isn't always the potential form of する--often it's used because it has those other meanings. In the sentence 「オレンジは暖かい国でできる」, できる is being used for one of its other meanings and not as the potential form of する.

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Re: To be able to orange?

Postby community.japanese » November 23rd, 2014 4:18 am

マイケルさん、
どうもありがとうございます。

TrojanBird さん、
今日は。
Yes, you can useりんごができる.
りんごが青森でできる mean apples grow in Aomori

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