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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby chonnyfonny696924 » August 2nd, 2013 3:59 am

sorry about not replying earlier. But thank you for correcting. I still have trouble reading some of the kanji, so I have to use a translator to see what it is in hiragana. But sometimes It may not be accurate. But thank you again. I think I should read back my notes and feedback so I can make less mistakes.
Thank you
Ernie

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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby chonnyfonny696924 » August 2nd, 2013 4:15 am

2013ๅนด๏ผ˜ๆœˆ๏ผ’ๆ—ฅใ€€ใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใŒๆฅ้€ฑๆœซ๏ผ๏ผใ€€ใƒคใƒ›ใ‚ชใ‚ชใ‚ชใ‚ชใ‚ชใ‚ชใ‚ช๏ผ๏ผ๏ผ๏ผ
ใพใŸไผ‘ใฟใงใ€‚ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใƒญใƒณใ‚ฐ้€ฑๆœซใ‚’๏ผ”ๆ—ฅไผ‘ใฟใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€‚ๅนธใ›ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใ€‚
ใ‚ขใƒ‹ใƒกใฎใ‚ณใ‚นใƒ—ใƒฉใ‚คใ‚ณใƒณใƒ™ใƒณใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใซใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใŒ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚ๅพ…ใฃใฆใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใ‚ˆ๏ผ๏ผ๏ผ๏ผ
ใŸใถใ‚“,ใ€€ใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒˆใซใƒใ‚นใƒˆใŒใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†๏ผ
ใ˜ใ‚ƒใ€‚ใ€€ใ—ใคใ‚‚ใ‚“ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
่ชฐไบบใฎใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใซๆฅ้€ฑๆœซใซใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
ไผšใ†ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸใ€€ใŸใถใ‚“๏ผŸ
็Ÿญใใฆใƒใ‚นใƒˆใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ไฝ•ใ‚’ๆ›ธใใ‹ใฏๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ€‚
ใ˜ใ‚ƒใ‚ใ€‚ใ“ใฎใƒใ‚นใƒˆใฏใคใ‚ใ‚‰ใชใ„๏ผˆ็ฌ‘๏ผ‰
ใ˜ใ‚ƒใพใŸ
่ชญใ‚“ใงใใ‚Œใฆใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
ใ‚ขใƒ‹ใƒผ

P.S: ใพใŸใ“ใฎ๏ผ”ๆ—ฅ้–“ไป•ไบ‹ใฎใ‚„ใ™ใฟใ€‚ใ‚ˆใ—๏ผ

Friday 2nd august 2013. SYDNEY NEXT WEEKEND!! WHOOOHOOO!!!
Another Holiday. But It's only a long weekend of 4 days.
Therefore, I'm still happy.
i'm going to Sydney for an Anime cosplay convention. CAN'T WAIT!!
Maybe I'll post photos :)
By the way. I got a question for you all. Anyone in Sydey next weekend?
Let's meet maybe?
Sorry for the short post. didn't know what else to write.
Gee. This post sounds boring hehehe.
See you later
Thanks for reading
Ernie

p.s: 4 days off work again. YES!!!

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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby community.japanese » August 4th, 2013 7:10 am

ใ‚ขใƒผใƒ‹ใƒผใ•ใ‚“ใ€
if/when you don't understand something I wrote or can't read kanji, please feel free to ask me!
I thought you'd be pretty familiar to kanji and I might have used too much kanji in correction... :oops:

2013ๅนด๏ผ˜ๆœˆ๏ผ’ๆ—ฅใ€€ใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใŒๆฅ้€ฑๆœซ๏ผ๏ผใ€€ใƒคใƒ›ใ‚ชใ‚ชใ‚ชใ‚ชใ‚ชใ‚ชใ‚ช๏ผ๏ผ๏ผ๏ผ
Friday 2nd august 2013. SYDNEY NEXT WEEKEND!! WHOOOHOOO!!!
=> I actually didn't quite understadn why it says "next weekend" :?
You mean you're going to Sydney next weekend? If so,
ๆฅ้€ฑๆœซใฏใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใงใ™ใ€‚ORใ€€ๆฅ้€ฑๆœซใฏใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใซ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚

ใพใŸไผ‘ใฟใงใ€‚ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใƒญใƒณใ‚ฐ้€ฑๆœซใ‚’๏ผ”ๆ—ฅไผ‘ใฟใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€‚ๅนธใ›ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใ€‚
Another Holiday. But It's only a long weekend of 4 days.
Therefore, I'm still happy.
=> ใพใŸไผ‘ใฟใงใ™ใ€‚๏ผ”ๆ—ฅ้–“ไผ‘ๆ—ฅใŒ็ถšใ้•ทใ„้€ฑๆœซใงใ™ใ€‚ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚

ใ‚ขใƒ‹ใƒกใฎใ‚ณใ‚นใƒ—ใƒฉใ‚คใ‚ณใƒณใƒ™ใƒณใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใซใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใŒ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚ๅพ…ใฃใฆใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใ‚ˆ๏ผ๏ผ๏ผ๏ผ
i'm going to Sydney for an Anime cosplay convention. CAN'T WAIT!!
=> Ah, this is (somehow) a common mistake for "can't wait". It's ๅพ…ใฆใพใ›ใ‚“ in polite speech and
ๅพ…ใฆใชใ„ in casual speech. It's a very convenient and usuful expression, so please remember the correct way :wink:

ใŸใถใ‚“,ใ€€ใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒˆใซใƒใ‚นใƒˆใŒใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†๏ผ
Maybe I'll post photos
=> ใŸใถใ‚“ใ€ๅ†™็œŸใ‚’ใฎใ›ใพใ™ใ€‚

ใ˜ใ‚ƒใ€‚ใ€€ใ—ใคใ‚‚ใ‚“ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
่ชฐไบบใฎใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใซๆฅ้€ฑๆœซใซใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸไผšใ†ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸใ€€ใŸใถใ‚“๏ผŸ
By the way. I got a question for you all. Anyone in Sydey next weekend?
Let's meet maybe?
=> ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€ใฟใชใ•ใ‚“ใซ่ณชๅ•ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ๆฅ้€ฑๆœซใ€่ชฐใ‹ใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใซใ„ใพใ™ใ‹ใ€‚ใ‚‚ใ—ใ„ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ไผšใ„ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚
This part needs a bit of twists; the way expressed in English can't be literally translated into Japanese
if you want to sound natural.

็Ÿญใใฆใƒใ‚นใƒˆใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ไฝ•ใ‚’ๆ›ธใใ‹ใฏๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ€‚
ใ˜ใ‚ƒใ‚ใ€‚ใ“ใฎใƒใ‚นใƒˆใฏใคใ‚ใ‚‰ใชใ„๏ผˆ็ฌ‘๏ผ‰
Sorry for the short post. didn't know what else to write.
Gee. This post sounds boring hehehe.
=> ็Ÿญใใฆใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ไป–ใซไฝ•ใ‚’ๆ›ธใ„ใŸใ‚‰ใ„ใ„ใ‹ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ใ“ใฎใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใฏใคใพใ‚‰ใชใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚

One important thing you might want to remember is that keeping the same politeness in your speech
is very important. Your composition has often both polite/formal and casual expressions.
Casual speech is not always welcomed by everyone, and this is another important thing you might want to
remember. There are many people who prefer casual way of speech, but there are also people who feel
"not nice" about it. I think it's a bit like foreiners using crrupt broken slang English :wink:

Natsuko(ๅฅˆๆดฅๅญ),
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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby chonnyfonny696924 » August 4th, 2013 11:16 am

Thank you so much for corrections. I took abit to write this post and I think I have done better this time because I was reading my previous post corrections. But I still have trouble. I apprieciate for you taking the time to give me a detailed feedback.

"ใ‚ขใƒผใƒ‹ใƒผใ•ใ‚“ใ€
if/when you don't understand something I wrote or can't read kanji, please feel free to ask me!
I thought you'd be pretty familiar to kanji and I might have used too much kanji in correction... "
What can I say about Kanji..... I am going to learn Kanji from scratch this time. However, I don't know where to start. I'm thinking the N5 kanji would be a good place to start. Unless you can point me to a resource for jpod101 members for beginner kanji

[I actually didn't quite understadn why it says "next weekend"
You mean you're going to Sydney next weekend?]
I should've made it more clear/formal and said "Going to Sydney next weekend" or "I will be in Sydney next weekend" but I'm sorry If you didn't get "SYDNEY NEXT WEEKEND" just shortened the phrase

[Another Holiday. But It's only a long weekend of 4 days.
Therefore, I'm still happy.
=> ใพใŸไผ‘ใฟใงใ™ใ€‚๏ผ”ๆ—ฅ้–“ไผ‘ๆ—ฅใŒ็ถšใ้•ทใ„้€ฑๆœซใงใ™ใ€‚ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚]
็ถšใ = This kanji?
๏ผ”ๆ—ฅ้–“ไผ‘ๆ—ฅ = the ๆ—ฅ้–“ I had trouble typing this. But in hiragana would be ใซใกใ‹ใ‚“๏ผŸใ€€ไผ‘ๆ—ฅ= I know this is holiday but whats this In hiragana?


[ใ‚ขใƒ‹ใƒกใฎใ‚ณใ‚นใƒ—ใƒฉใ‚คใ‚ณใƒณใƒ™ใƒณใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใซใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใŒ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚ๅพ…ใฃใฆใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใ‚ˆ๏ผ๏ผ๏ผ๏ผ
i'm going to Sydney for an Anime cosplay convention. CAN'T WAIT!!
=> Ah, this is (somehow) a common mistake for "can't wait". It's ๅพ…ใฆใพใ›ใ‚“ in polite speech and
ๅพ…ใฆใชใ„ in casual speech. It's a very convenient and usuful expression, so please remember the correct way ]
"ใ‚ขใƒ‹ใƒกใฎใ‚ณใ‚นใƒ—ใƒฉใ‚คใ‚ณใƒณใƒ™ใƒณใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใซใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใŒ่กŒใใพใ™" I take it I got this right. YES!!! :D
Because I wrote "CAN'T WAIT!!" in capital. I wrote "ๅพ…ใฃใฆใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใ‚ˆ" because It sounded like I'm emphisizing this with the "ใ‚ˆ" at the end.
ๅพ…ใฆใพใ›ใ‚“= I'll use this from now on.

[Maybe I'll post photos
=> ใŸใถใ‚“ใ€ๅ†™็œŸใ‚’ใฎใ›ใพใ™ใ€‚]
ๅ†™็œŸ = this kanji Is photo. I see
ใฎใ›ใพใ™ = Never heard of this verb. Is this the accurate translation for "post"? I take it that "ใƒใ‚นใƒˆ" is not correct?
I use "ใƒใ‚นใƒˆ" alot though.

[By the way. I got a question for you all. Anyone in Sydey next weekend?
Let's meet maybe?
=> ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€ใฟใชใ•ใ‚“ใซ่ณชๅ•ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ๆฅ้€ฑๆœซใ€่ชฐใ‹ใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใซใ„ใพใ™ใ‹ใ€‚ใ‚‚ใ—ใ„ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ไผšใ„ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚
This part needs a bit of twists; the way expressed in English can't be literally translated into Japanese
if you want to sound natural.]
With this one. I think I came up with trying to write japanese in english sentence format or tried to write it in the same order as my english. (If that makes sense)
ใ‚‚ใ—ใ„ใŸใ‚‰= ???
ใจใ“ใ‚ใง = This must be more accurate for "by the way"
I keep using "ใ˜ใ‚ƒ" thinking It can be widely used for things like "well" "by the way" 'So....." or to get someones attention or sometimes I use It instead of saying โ€ใ‚ใฎใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠโ€
ไผšใ„ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ = "ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†" I keep thinking this is the future tense like for example when I say to myself 'LET'S GO" ๏ผ๏ผ๏ผž่กŒใใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
or when I say "I'm going to study hard"===> ้ ‘ๅผตใ‚Šใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†

[Sorry for the short post. didn't know what else to write.
Gee. This post sounds boring hehehe.
=> ็Ÿญใใฆใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ไป–ใซไฝ•ใ‚’ๆ›ธใ„ใŸใ‚‰ใ„ใ„ใ‹ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ใ“ใฎใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใฏใคใพใ‚‰ใชใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚]
ไป–= Never seen this kanji.
ใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆ= comment?
when I said This post sounds boring hehehe. I meant the entire post/entry.

[One important thing you might want to remember is that keeping the same politeness in your speech
is very important. Your composition has often both polite/formal and casual expressions.
Casual speech is not always welcomed by everyone, and this is another important thing you might want to
remember. There are many people who prefer casual way of speech, but there are also people who feel
"not nice" about it. I think it's a bit like foreiners using crrupt broken slang English}
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I like to try and stay formal but most japanese people try to correct me in casual form. I even had some people saying 'why so formal?" As an Australian, We're lazy so speaking in shortcuts and slang is our best friend. So from now on I'll try to stick to being formal and polite as best as I can. My english as well.

I'm so sorry If I questioned your detailed post feedback. Just I felt like I had to explain why I wrote some things that are very incorrect. I just feel like my Japanese Isn't getting any better and I think I should give up. But I woke up today thinking "I can't give up now. I spent too much time to throw it all away. Have to keep studying"
practicing on this forum and learning from this makes me feel like the urge to keep going. I know this post is long I'll stop sorry.

Thank you again. :)
Ernie

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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby Teabag » August 4th, 2013 2:49 pm

chonnyfonny696924 wrote:=> ใพใŸไผ‘ใฟใงใ™ใ€‚๏ผ”ๆ—ฅ้–“ไผ‘ๆ—ฅใŒ็ถšใ้•ทใ„้€ฑๆœซใงใ™ใ€‚ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚]
็ถšใ = This kanji?
๏ผ”ๆ—ฅ้–“ไผ‘ๆ—ฅ = the ๆ—ฅ้–“ I had trouble typing this. But in hiragana would be ใซใกใ‹ใ‚“๏ผŸใ€€ไผ‘ๆ—ฅ= I know this is holiday but whats this In hiragana?


Hi Ernie,
Please allow me to take part in your post, as I'd like to introduce you to this online dictionary which you might find helpful, at least to some of your questions.
If you copy and paste ็ถšใ there, this is the page you'll see. http://goo.gl/GiJbJy

Here's the one for ไผ‘ๆ—ฅ.ใ€€http://goo.gl/1MTqQ9

"ใ‚‚ใ—ใ„ใŸใ‚‰= ??? "
Think this is ใ‚‚ใ—(if)+ใ„ใ‚‹๏ผˆbe, exist), conditional use.

I sometimes stop by your post just to see how Natsuko san would correct your writing.
And it's also very helpful for me to learn too.
Hope you will find Weblio helpful.
Happy studies.

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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby community.japanese » August 5th, 2013 3:46 pm

ใ‚ขใƒผใƒ‹ใƒผใ•ใ‚“ใ€

chonnyfonny696924 wrote:What can I say about Kanji..... I am going to learn Kanji from scratch this time. However, I don't know where to start. I'm thinking the N5 kanji would be a good place to start. Unless you can point me to a resource for jpod101 members for beginner kanjiใ€€


I think N5 kanji is a great idea to start with! :wink:
We have kanji lessons (video), so if you can check them out and learn with them, it might help you too!

chonnyfonny696924 wrote:[Another Holiday. But It's only a long weekend of 4 days.
Therefore, I'm still happy.
=> ใพใŸไผ‘ใฟใงใ™ใ€‚๏ผ”ๆ—ฅ้–“ไผ‘ๆ—ฅใŒ็ถšใ้•ทใ„้€ฑๆœซใงใ™ใ€‚ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚]
็ถšใ = This kanji?
๏ผ”ๆ—ฅ้–“ไผ‘ๆ—ฅ = the ๆ—ฅ้–“ I had trouble typing this. But in hiragana would be ใซใกใ‹ใ‚“๏ผŸใ€€ไผ‘ๆ—ฅ= I know this is holiday but whats this In hiragana?

Oops :oops: Sorry!
ใ€Œใ‚ˆใฃใ‹ใ‹ใ‚“ใ€€ใใ‚…ใ†ใ˜ใคใ€€ใŒใ€€ใคใฅใใ€€ใชใŒใ„ใ€€ใ—ใ‚…ใ†ใพใคใ€€ใงใ™ใ€‚ใ€
The reading of ๆ—ฅ้–“ actually changes depending on the number, but ใซใกใ‹ใ‚“ is pretty much only when
you ask like "for how many days" which is ใชใ‚“ใซใกใ‹ใ‚“.... :mrgreen:

chonnyfonny696924 wrote:"ใ‚ขใƒ‹ใƒกใฎใ‚ณใ‚นใƒ—ใƒฉใ‚คใ‚ณใƒณใƒ™ใƒณใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใซใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใŒ่กŒใใพใ™" I take it I got this right. YES!!! :D
Because I wrote "CAN'T WAIT!!" in capital. I wrote "ๅพ…ใฃใฆใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใ‚ˆ" because It sounded like I'm emphisizing this with the "ใ‚ˆ" at the end.
ๅพ…ใฆใพใ›ใ‚“= I'll use this from now on.

Sorry!! I forgot to mention ใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใซ part!! But the rest was very good! 8) I'm not very sure about the
best way to put ใ‚ขใƒ‹ใƒกใฎใƒปใƒปใƒปใƒป part :?
ใ‚ขใƒ‹ใƒกใฎใ‚ณใ‚นใƒ—ใƒฌใƒปใ‚คใƒณใƒ™ใƒณใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใซใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใซ๏ผˆใธ๏ผ‰่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
Or, just
ใ‚ขใƒ‹ใƒกใฎใ‚ณใ‚นใƒ—ใƒฌใฎใ‚คใƒ™ใƒณใƒˆใซใ€ใ‚ทใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒผใซ๏ผˆใธ๏ผ‰่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
As to emphasising your feelings, here's my recommendation... :mrgreen:
ใปใ‚“ใจใ†ใซๅพ…ใฆใพใ›ใ‚“๏ผ๏ผ๏ผ
ไธ€็ง’ใ‚‚ๅพ…ใฆใชใ„ใใ‚‰ใ„ๆฅฝใ—ใฟใงใ™๏ฝž๏ฝž๏ฝž๏ฝž๏ผ(lit. I'm looking forward to it like I can't wait even one second more)


chonnyfonny696924 wrote:ๅ†™็œŸ = this kanji Is photo. I see
ใฎใ›ใพใ™ = Never heard of this verb. Is this the accurate translation for "post"? I take it that "ใƒใ‚นใƒˆ" is not correct?
I use "ใƒใ‚นใƒˆ" alot though.


Hmm, I actually thought a lot if I should use the word ใƒใ‚นใƒˆ here. We can understand it, but
when we use this word ใƒใ‚นใƒˆ, it's usually the "mailbox". In more natural way in Japanese is either ใฎใ›ใพใ™ or
ใจใ†ใ“ใ†ใ—ใพใ™ (as verb). I decided to write the natural way so that you have more choices :wink:

chonnyfonny696924 wrote:
With this one. I think I came up with trying to write japanese in english sentence format or tried to write it in the same order as my english. (If that makes sense)
ใ‚‚ใ—ใ„ใŸใ‚‰= ???
ใจใ“ใ‚ใง = This must be more accurate for "by the way"
I keep using "ใ˜ใ‚ƒ" thinking It can be widely used for things like "well" "by the way" 'So....." or to get someones attention or sometimes I use It instead of saying โ€ใ‚ใฎใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠโ€


Of course I understood you completely! :wink:
It's really a matter of "how we say in our languages", and I thought you might want to know the
natural Japanese way.
ใ‚‚ใ—ใ„ใŸใ‚‰ => lit. If (you) are (there)
ใจใ“ใ‚ใง = by the way
I think we use ใ˜ใ‚ƒ in casual conversation, but in sense of "all right then" or "right then", just to change the conversation
or to start new conversation.

chonnyfonny696924 wrote:
็Ÿญใใฆใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ไป–ใซไฝ•ใ‚’ๆ›ธใ„ใŸใ‚‰ใ„ใ„ใ‹ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ใ“ใฎใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใฏใคใพใ‚‰ใชใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
ไป–= Never seen this kanji.
ใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆ= comment?
when I said This post sounds boring hehehe. I meant the entire post/entry.

ไป–ใ€€๏ผใ€€ใปใ‹ใ€€๏ผใ€€other
ใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆ = comment
Yes, I understood what you meant, so the whole sentence in Japanese literally means
"I don't know what I should write other than those (what I've written). This comment (= this post) is boring, isn't it?"

chonnyfonny696924 wrote:
I like to try and stay formal but most japanese people try to correct me in casual form. I even had some people saying 'why so formal?" As an Australian, We're lazy so speaking in shortcuts and slang is our best friend. So from now on I'll try to stick to being formal and polite as best as I can. My english as well.


Brilliant! :D Well, (Japanese) people who don't understand the way foreign learners of Japanese
often give such comments like "why are you so formal?" but that's just a lack of respect.
One of the biggest problems we have now in Japan is actually young people soon use casual speech to
people who they even know well. That was not the right way and if any young people (Japanese) speak to me
in casual speech, I'd probably ignore them or wouldn't do any favour. Respect is a great deal in Japan and
they don't respect others; it's their loss and they need to learn that.
As a result of "not learning proper formal Japanese", there are many Japanese who cannot use polite expressions
called "keigo". They have no idea how rude they can be when they mis-use "keigo" actually.
So, please be careful with those "native" Japanese who says something different from your textbooks
or J-Pod team :wink:

chonnyfonny696924 wrote:
I'm so sorry If I questioned your detailed post feedback. Just I felt like I had to explain why I wrote some things that are very incorrect. I just feel like my Japanese Isn't getting any better and I think I should give up. But I woke up today thinking "I can't give up now. I spent too much time to throw it all away. Have to keep studying"
practicing on this forum and learning from this makes me feel like the urge to keep going. I know this post is long I'll stop sorry.

ABSOLUTELY NO need to be sorry!!
On the contrary, I'm happy to know that you've been through my long feedbacks and tried to learn from it :wink:
We're here to help you, so when you want to understand something from our comments, that can never bother us! :D
Personally, you're doing great to write your diary-like story in Japanese, which shouldn't be too easy.
So, taking my time to answer to keen learners like you is my pleasure and, if you're happy with my feedback,
there's no better appreciation I could feel :kokoro:

Hope we can continue helping you and encouraging you to study Japanese!

Natsuko(ๅฅˆๆดฅๅญ),
Team JapanesePod101.com

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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby elvabeby9745 » September 6th, 2013 9:34 am

Thank you.

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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby team.relationships » October 4th, 2013 5:37 am

elvabeby9745-san,
you're very welcome! :wink:

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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby chonnyfonny696924 » October 13th, 2013 2:17 pm

็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏ
ใŠไน…ใ—ใถใ‚Šใ€‚ใ€€ใŠๅ…ƒๆฐ—ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
ๅ‹‰ๅผทใฏใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
ใ‚ณใƒƒใƒกใƒณใจใฏใปใ—ใ„ใŒๆ›ธใๆฐ—ใŒใ‚ใ„ใฆใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
I don't think I know enough Japanese to talk about a subject..ใ€€
ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใƒ€ใ‚คใƒชใƒใ‚นใƒˆใŒๆ›ธใ‘ใพใ™ใ€‚
ๆฏŽๆ—ฅใฏๅ‹‰ๅผทใŒ่กŒใใŸใ„ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
้ ‘ๅผตใฃใฆใจๅ‹‰ๅผทใŒใ„ใใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†๏ผ๏ผ
่ชญใ‚“ใงใใ‚Œใฆใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™๏ผ๏ผ
ใ‚ขใƒผใƒ‹ :)

Hello everyone
It's been a long time. How are you all?
How is your studies going?
I've been wanting to post but I don't know what to write..
I don't think I know enough Japanese to talk about a subject..
So I'll just keep writing diary posts
I hope to study everyday from now on.
Good luck to all and I hope we all study together
Thanks for reading
Ernie :)

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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby chonnyfonny696924 » October 20th, 2013 11:55 am

ๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅ๏ผ’๏ผๆ—ฅ๏ผ‘๏ผๆœˆ๏ผ’๏ผ๏ผ‘๏ผ“ๅนด
๏ผ’้€ฑๆœซๅ‰ใซๆ›ธใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
ใ‚ซใƒณใ‚นๅ‰ฃ้“ใ‚ซใƒƒใƒ—๏ผ–ๆ—ฅ๏ผ‘๏ผๆœˆ๏ผ’๏ผ๏ผ‘๏ผ“ๅนดใซใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
ไปŠๅนดใ€็งใฎใฉใ˜ใ‚‡ใฏใŸใ„ใ‹ใ„ใŒใŠใคใ‹ใ‚Œใ•ใพใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
ๅƒ•ใฏไธ€็•ชใซใใ‚Šใ‹ใˆใ—ใจไธ€็•ชใซใƒใƒ ใƒ‚ใƒ“ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
ใ†ใ‚Œใ—ใ„ใŒใ€‚็งใฎ็ทด็ฟ’ใฏใŠใคใ‹ใ‚Œใ•ใพใพใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
ใงใ‚‚ใ€‚ๅคใƒฌใ‚คใƒ‚ใƒณใ‚ฐใจใ‚ปใƒŸใƒŠใ‚ขใƒผใŒ็ทด็ฟ’ใ€‚้ ‘ๅผตใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
ไธ€็ƒใ€‚ใ€€่กŒใใพใ™๏ผ๏ผ
่ชญใ‚“ใงใใ‚Œใฆใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
ใ‚ขใƒ‹ใƒผ


Sunday 20 October, 2013:
Writing from 2 weeks ago.
The Cairns Kendo Cup was held on 6th october, 2013.
This year, my Dojo did very well in the competition. I claimed 1st place in kirikaeshi competion and 1st place in team division.
I was very glad because because my training paid off very well.
But, I have to train for the summer grading and seminar. There I must keep training.
ikkyu. HERE I COME!!! LETS DO THIS!!
Thanks for reading.
Ernie

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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby community.japanese » October 21st, 2013 11:23 am

ใ‚ขใƒผใƒ‹ใƒผใ•ใ‚“ใ€
ใŠไน…ใ—ใถใ‚Šใงใ™ใญ :D

chonnyfonny696924 wrote:ใ‚ณใƒƒใƒกใƒณใจใฏใปใ—ใ„ใŒๆ›ธใๆฐ—ใŒใ‚ใ„ใฆใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚


ใ€Œใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใฏใปใ—ใ„ใ‘ใฉใ€ๆ›ธใๆฐ—ใŒใ—ใชใ„ใ€ :lol: :lol:
ใชใ‚“ใ‹ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚‹ๆฐ—ใŒใ—ใพใ™ :mrgreen: (= I think I know what you mean...)
Please find the corrections below:
ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใƒ€ใ‚คใƒชใƒใ‚นใƒˆใŒๆ›ธใ‘ใพใ™ใ€‚(So I'll just keep writing diary posts)
=>ใชใฎใงใ€ใƒ€ใ‚คใ‚ขใƒชใƒผใ‚’ๆ›ธใใพใ™ใ€‚
We can use both ใƒ€ใ‚คใ‚ขใƒชใƒผ and ๆ—ฅ่จ˜ to say "diary". :wink:

ๆฏŽๆ—ฅใฏๅ‹‰ๅผทใŒ่กŒใใŸใ„ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚(I hope to study everyday from now on.)
=> ใ“ใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใฏใ€ๆฏŽๆ—ฅๅ‹‰ๅผทใ—ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚

้ ‘ๅผตใฃใฆใจๅ‹‰ๅผทใŒใ„ใใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†๏ผ๏ผ(Good luck to all and I hope we all study together)
=> ใฟใชใ•ใ‚“ใ‚‚้ ‘ๅผตใฃใฆใ€‚ไธ€็ท’ใซๅ‹‰ๅผทใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚

All those sentences require a bit of "twists" to sound natural in Japanese.
So, please feel free to ask any question if you don't understand why I changed like those :D

And from the next post...
ๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅ๏ผ’๏ผๆ—ฅ๏ผ‘๏ผๆœˆ๏ผ’๏ผ๏ผ‘๏ผ“ๅนด
=> We write dates in the opposite order: 2013ๅนด10ๆœˆ20ๆ—ฅ๏ผˆๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅ๏ผ‰

๏ผ’้€ฑๆœซๅ‰ใซๆ›ธใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚(Writing from 2 weeks ago.)
=> ๏ผ’้€ฑ้–“ๅ‰ใฎใ“ใจใ‹ใ‚‰ๆ›ธใใพใ™ใ€‚

ใ‚ซใƒณใ‚นๅ‰ฃ้“ใ‚ซใƒƒใƒ—๏ผ–ๆ—ฅ๏ผ‘๏ผๆœˆ๏ผ’๏ผ๏ผ‘๏ผ“ๅนดใซใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚(The Cairns Kendo Cup was held on 6th october, 2013.)
=> Close!! 2013ๅนด10ๆœˆ6ๆ—ฅใซใ€ใ‚ซใƒณใ‚นๅ‰ฃ้“ใ‚ซใƒƒใƒ—ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚

ไปŠๅนดใ€็งใฎใฉใ˜ใ‚‡ใฏใŸใ„ใ‹ใ„ใŒใŠใคใ‹ใ‚Œใ•ใพใงใ—ใŸใ€‚(This year, my Dojo did very well in the competition.)
=> ไปŠๅนดใ€็งใฎ้“ๅ ด๏ผˆใฉใ†ใ˜ใ‚‡ใ†๏ผ‰ใฏใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ใŒใ‚“ใฐใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚OR ไปŠๅนดใ€็งใฎ้“ๅ ดใฏใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ใ‚ˆใ„ๆˆ็ธพใ‚’ใฎใ“ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚

ๅƒ•ใฏไธ€็•ชใซใใ‚Šใ‹ใˆใ—ใจไธ€็•ชใซใƒใƒ ใƒ‚ใƒ“ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚(I claimed 1st place in kirikaeshi competion and 1st place in team division.)
=> ็งใฏใ€ใใ‚Šใ‹ใˆใ—ใจใ€ๅ›ฃไฝ“ๆˆฆ(= team division)ใง1ไฝใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚

ใ†ใ‚Œใ—ใ„ใŒใ€‚็งใฎ็ทด็ฟ’ใฏใŠใคใ‹ใ‚Œใ•ใพใพใงใ—ใŸใ€‚(I was very glad because my training paid off very well.)
=> ็ทด็ฟ’ใจๅŠชๅŠ›ใŒใ‚€ใใ‚ใ‚ŒใŸใฎใง(OR ็ทด็ฟ’ใ—ใŸๆˆๆžœใŒๅ‡บใŸใฎใง)ใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ใ†ใ‚Œใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚

ใงใ‚‚ใ€‚ๅคใƒฌใ‚คใƒ‚ใƒณใ‚ฐใจใ‚ปใƒŸใƒŠใ‚ขใƒผใŒ็ทด็ฟ’ใ€‚้ ‘ๅผตใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
(But, I have to train for the summer grading and seminar. There I must keep training.)
=> ใงใ‚‚ใ€ๅคใฎใ‚ฐใƒฌใƒผใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใจใ€ใ‚ปใƒŸใƒŠใƒผใฎใŸใ‚ใซ็ทด็ฟ’ใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ใŒใ‚“ใฐใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚

ไธ€็ƒใ€‚ใ€€่กŒใใพใ™๏ผ๏ผ(ikkyu. HERE I COME!!! LETS DO THIS!!)
=> I'm not too sure what the best for this line, but ไธ€็ƒ means "one ball" and kendo doesn't involve any ball.
So, ไธ€็ƒ is not the appropriate expression here. ่กŒใใพใ™ should be okay.

I've got some advice after reading your posts.
1. ใ†ใ‚Œใ—ใ„ใŒใ€‚
You don't stop the sentence with ใŒ unless there's a good reason. Also, please revise my corrected version
because you'll find the usage and sentence composition is now very different.

2. ใงใ‚‚ใ€‚
Again, this word ใงใ‚‚ is not to stop there. This comes at the beginning of the sentence, and the sentence
continues.

3. ใŠใคใ‹ใ‚Œใ•ใพ
I think you've misunderstood the usage of this expression. This expression is not very easy to understand.
Please refer to many examples and explanations before you actually use it.
It's not for describing about yourself.

4. ใƒปใƒปใƒปใŒ็ทด็ฟ’ใ€‚
็ทด็ฟ’ใ—ใพใ™ is a basic verb which is a transitive verb. Please revise the transitive verbs and particles.

Trying a long composition and practice your Japanese is a great way to brush up and learn from.
You can see a lot from there: what you have to study and/or review (and this is the most important part).
Please take some time to review and go back to the basic practices making sure about grammar rules
before moving on.

By the way, "grading" ๏ผˆใ‚ฐใƒฌใƒผใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐ๏ผ‰ could be ๆ˜‡ๆฎต่ฉฆ้จ“ or ๆ˜‡ๆฎตๅฏฉๆŸป...

Natsuko (ๅฅˆๆดฅๅญ),
Team JapanesePod101.com

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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby chonnyfonny696924 » October 21st, 2013 12:15 pm

I'll keep this short. I will ask alot of Questions later.
Thanks again for correcting my blogs again and again. Even though they are very very bad and needs alot of improvement.
So I did look at your advice I think I will go back to reviewing the grammar rules/basics, verbs and particles. So maybe the grammar video beginner series might be a good start. Unless theres others or something better you can direct me to.
Thanks again much apprieciated. I learn the most by writing these blogs. I just realized I don't want to write write a million blogs and make the same mistakes over and over again. Otherwise I'll think I'm wasting your time by telling me over and over again.
Thanks
Ernie

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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby community.japanese » October 25th, 2013 3:24 pm

Ernie-san,
you're always very welcome!! :D
I just hope I didn't give you any wrong idea about trying out your Japanese skills here...

As I said, practicing and trying to write something in Japanese is a great idea and
I do respect your effort! It was just in term of learning and making your study more efficient
and I thought I'd probably need to add extra line. Hope you will continue your "output" practice
as well. Besides, even if you think your blog has a lot of mistakes, it's your own composition,
not like a composition where Google Translate speaking :mrgreen:
We're happy to help you correct and improve your skills in Japanese!

Please take enough time and also continue your best effort using this free space! :wink:

Natsuko (ๅฅˆๆดฅๅญ),
Team JapanesePod101.com

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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby chonnyfonny696924 » November 3rd, 2013 12:25 pm

2013ๅนด11ๆœˆ3ๆ—ฅๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅ

็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€‚้€ฑๆœซใฏใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
OR
็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚้€ฑๆœซใฏใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
็งใฎ้€ฑๆœซใฏใคใ‚ใ‚Šใชใ„ใŒใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
ใงใ‚‚ใ€ๆฅ้€ฑๆœซใฏใŒใ‚“ใฐใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
้‡‘ๆ›œๆ—ฅใฏไป•ไบ‹ใงใ‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ใงใ‚‚ใ€ๅœŸๆ›œๆ—ฅใฏไป•ไบ‹ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
ๆฅๆœˆใฏ็งใฎ่ช•็”Ÿๆ—ฅๅพŒใงใŒใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
ๆ™‚้–“ใซใจใฆใ‚‚ใฏใ‚„ใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
็งใฏไฝ•ๆญณใŒใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
25ๆญณใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸใ€€ใใ†ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
ใ‚ใ€‚ใ€‚ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจๅพ…ใฃใฆใ€‚25ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸใ€€ใใ‚Œใงใ‚ใ‚€ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
ๆ™‚้–“ใซใปใ‚“ใจใซใฏใ‚„ใ„ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚็งใฏๅคใ„ใŒใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
ใ‚ˆใ‚“ใงใใ‚Œใฆใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™
ๅฏใ‚‹ใฎๆ™‚้–“
ใ‚ขใƒผใƒ‹ใƒผ

Sunday 3 November, 2013
hello everyone. How was your weekend?
My weekend was boring.
But I hope next weekend will be good.
On friday there was no work. Instead, there was work on saturday.
My birthday will be next month.
Time goes fast doesn't it?
How old will I be?
25 years old? Yep, thats right
ummm.... Wait... 25? no way that impossible!!
Time does really go fast. I'm getting old...
Thanks for reading
Time to sleep
Ernie

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Re: ernie's japanese practice blogging

Postby mmmason8967 » November 3rd, 2013 11:27 pm

ใ‚ขใƒผใƒ‹ใƒผใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€‚

It's a bit late here so I'll just pick out one line. Seeing as how you're complaining about being 25 next month, and I'm going to be 58 next week (and consequently don't feel a lot of sympathy :wink:), I chose this one:-

ๆ™‚้–“ใซใปใ‚“ใจใซใฏใ‚„ใ„ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚็งใฏๅคใ„ใŒใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚


I think the particle after ๆ™‚้–“ should be ใฏ, not ใซ, because ๆ™‚้–“ is the topic.

ใฏใ‚„ใ„ใงใ—ใŸ should be ใฏใ‚„ใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™.

ๅคใ„ is an adjective so I don't think it can be a predicate: instead of ๅคใ„ใŒใชใ‚Šใพใ™ I think it should be ๅคใใชใ‚Šใพใ™. However, I think ๅคใ„ only applies to buildings and things like that--not to people--so it's a moot point anyway. I'm not sure what the correct adjective for 'old' with people is. But I think you'd probably should say something like ่ฆช็ˆถใŒใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€€๏ผˆใŠใ‚„ใ˜ใŒใชใ‚Šใพใ™๏ผ‰ or ๅนด่€ใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚ใพใ™ใ€€๏ผˆใจใ—ใŠใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ™๏ผ‰ใ€‚

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