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INTRODUCTION
Naomi: ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใƒŠใ‚ชใƒŸใงใ™ใ€‚
Chris: Chris here. โ€œIn Your Opinion, are Ugly Japanese Vegetables Safe to Eat?โ€ ไปŠๅ›žใฎไผš่ฉฑใฏใƒ†ใƒฌใƒ“็•ช็ต„ใงใ™ใญ๏ผŸ
Naomi: ใฏใ„ใ€‚ILLๅผๅฝ“ใจใ„ใ†ใŠๅผๅฝ“ๅฑ‹ใ•ใ‚“ใ‚’็ตŒๅ–ถใ™ใ‚‹ๅฒธ็คพ้•ทใซใ€ใ‚ขใƒŠใ‚ฆใƒณใ‚ตใƒผใŒใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒ“ใƒฅใƒผใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
ไผš็คพใฎ็ตŒๅ–ถใฎ่ฉฑใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€็ตŒๅ–ถใ‚„็ตŒๆธˆ้–ขไฟ‚ใฎๅ˜่ชžใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ๅ‡บใฆใใพใ™ใ€‚
Chris: ้›ฃใ—ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ‡ใ€‚ใงใ‚‚ใ€ๆ–ฐ่žใ‚„ใƒ†ใƒฌใƒ“ใ‚’็†่งฃใ™ใ‚‹ใซใฏใ€ๅฟ…่ฆใชๅ˜่ชžใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚
Naomi: ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
Chris: ไปŠๅ›žใฏใฉใ‚“ใชๆ–‡ๆณ•ใ‚’ๅ‹‰ๅผทใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
Naomi: ใ€Œ๏ฝžใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€ใจใ‹ใ€Œ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใใ€ใจใ‹ใ€Œใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใฏใ€ใจใ‹ใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๆ„่ฆ‹ใ‚’่จ€ใ†ใจใใซไพฟๅˆฉใช่กจ็พใ‚’ๅ‹‰ๅผทใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
Chris: In this lesson, you'll learn some useful expressions you can use when stating your opinion. This lesson's conversation is between a T.V. announcer and the CEO of a chain that sells boxed lunches called ILL Bento. They're talking about the management of the company, so we'll hear a lot of vocabulary words related to business and the economy.
Naomi: ใงใฏใ€ใƒ€ใ‚คใ‚ขใƒญใ‚ฐใ‚’่žใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
DIALOGUE
ใ‚ขใƒŠใ‚ฆใƒณใ‚ตใƒผ: ไปŠๅ›žใฏใ€ILLๅผๅฝ“ใฎๅฒธ็คพ้•ทใซใŠ่ฉฑใ‚’ไผบใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
ๅฒธ: ใ‚ˆใ‚ใ—ใใŠ้ก˜ใ„ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
ใ‚ขใƒŠใ‚ฆใƒณใ‚ตใƒผ: ๆ™ฏๆฐ—ไฝŽ่ฟทใฎใชใ‹ใ€ILLๅผๅฝ“ใฏใ€ๅณ่‚ฉไธŠใŒใ‚Šใซๆฅญ็ธพใ‚’ไผธใฐใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
ๅฒธ: ใŠใ‹ใ’ใ•ใพใงใ€ไพกๆ ผ็ซถไบ‰ใฎๆฟ€ใ—ใ„ใชใ‹ใงใ™ใŒใ€ไฝ•ใจใ‹ๆฅๅนดใซใฏ200ๅบ—็›ฎใ‚’ใ‚ชใƒผใƒ—ใƒณใงใใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
ใ‚ขใƒŠใ‚ฆใƒณใ‚ตใƒผ: ๆˆๅŠŸใฎ็ง˜ใ‘ใคใฏไฝ•ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚
ๅฒธ: ็ฐกๅ˜ใซ่จ€ใˆใฐใ€ๅ“่ณช็ฎก็†ใจๅธ‚ๅ ด่ชฟๆŸปใงใ™ใ€‚
ใ€Œๅฎ‰ใ‹ใ‚ใ†ๆ‚ชใ‹ใ‚ใ†ใ€ใฎๆ™‚ไปฃใฏใ‚‚ใ†้ŽใŽใ€ๆถˆ่ฒป่€…ใฏๅฎ‰ใใฆๅฎ‰ๅ…จใงใ€ใŠใ„ใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆฑ‚ใ‚ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
ใ‚ขใƒŠใ‚ฆใƒณใ‚ตใƒผ: ใชใ‚‹ใปใฉใ€‚
ๅฒธ: ๆถˆ่ฒป่€…ใฎๅฅๅบทๅฟ—ๅ‘ใŒ้ซ˜ใพใฃใฆใใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€ใใฎๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใฉใ‚“ใฉใ‚“ๅผทใใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
ๅผŠ็คพ(ใธใ„ใ—ใ‚ƒ)ใฎๅผๅฝ“ใฏใ€้‡Ž่œไธญๅฟƒใฎใƒ˜ใƒซใ‚ทใƒผใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ๆ™‚ไปฃใฎใƒ‹ใƒผใ‚บใ‚’ใคใ‹ใ‚“ใ ใ“ใจใŒใ€ๆˆๅŠŸใฎ็ง˜ใ‘ใคใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
ใ‚ขใƒŠใ‚ฆใƒณใ‚ตใƒผ: ๅธ‚ๅ ดใซใฏๅ‡บใ›ใชใ„่™ซ้ฃŸใ„ใฎ้‡Ž่œใ‚„่ฆ‹ใŸ็›ฎใฎๆ‚ชใ„้‡Ž่œใ‚’ใ€่พฒๅฎถใ‹ใ‚‰ๅฎ‰ใ่ฒทใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจ่žใใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€‚
ๅฒธ: ใใ‚Œใฏใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚นใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใฏใ€ใ‚€ใ—ใ‚ใ€Œใ‚‚ใฃใŸใ„ใชใ„ใ€ใจใ„ใ†่€ƒใˆใ‹ใ‚‰ๅง‹ใ‚ใŸใ“ใจใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
ใ‚ˆใ่€ƒใˆใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚่™ซ้ฃŸใ„ใฎ้‡Ž่œใฏใ€ใใกใ‚“ใจๆด—ใˆใฐ้ฃŸในใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚ใ‚€ใ—ใ‚ใ€่™ซใ‚‚้ฃŸใ‚ใชใ„้‡Ž่œใฎใปใ†ใŒๅฑใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹๏ผŸ
Naomi: ไปŠๅบฆใฏ่‹ฑ่ชžใฎ่จณใจไธ€็ท’ใซ่žใ„ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
ใ‚ขใƒŠใ‚ฆใƒณใ‚ตใƒผ: ไปŠๅ›žใฏใ€ILLๅผๅฝ“ใฎๅฒธ็คพ้•ทใซใŠ่ฉฑใ‚’ไผบใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
Chris: Today we're going to hear from the president of ILL Boxed Lunches, Mr. Kishi.
ๅฒธ: ใ‚ˆใ‚ใ—ใใŠ้ก˜ใ„ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
Chris: Thank you.
ใ‚ขใƒŠใ‚ฆใƒณใ‚ตใƒผ: ๆ™ฏๆฐ—ไฝŽ่ฟทใฎใชใ‹ใ€ILLๅผๅฝ“ใฏใ€ๅณ่‚ฉไธŠใŒใ‚Šใซๆฅญ็ธพใ‚’ไผธใฐใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
Chris: In the midst of a sluggish economy, it seems that ILL Boxed Lunches is showing prolific growth in its performance.
ๅฒธ: ใŠใ‹ใ’ใ•ใพใงใ€ไพกๆ ผ็ซถไบ‰ใฎๆฟ€ใ—ใ„ใชใ‹ใงใ™ใŒใ€ไฝ•ใจใ‹ๆฅๅนดใซใฏ200ๅบ—็›ฎใ‚’ใ‚ชใƒผใƒ—ใƒณใงใใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
Chris: Fortunately, even though we're fighting an extremely fierce price war, one way or another, next year we hope to be able to open our two hundredth shop.
ใ‚ขใƒŠใ‚ฆใƒณใ‚ตใƒผ: ๆˆๅŠŸใฎ็ง˜ใ‘ใคใฏไฝ•ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚
Chris: What is the secret of your success?
ๅฒธ: ็ฐกๅ˜ใซ่จ€ใˆใฐใ€ๅ“่ณช็ฎก็†ใจๅธ‚ๅ ด่ชฟๆŸปใงใ™ใ€‚
Chris: To put it simply, quality control and market research.
ๅฒธ: ใ€Œๅฎ‰ใ‹ใ‚ใ†ๆ‚ชใ‹ใ‚ใ†ใ€ใฎๆ™‚ไปฃใฏใ‚‚ใ†้ŽใŽใ€ๆถˆ่ฒป่€…ใฏๅฎ‰ใใฆๅฎ‰ๅ…จใงใ€ใŠใ„ใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆฑ‚ใ‚ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
Chris: The days of "You get what you pay for" are over. Consumers are demanding products that are cheap, safe, and tasty.
ๅฒธ: ใ‚ขใƒŠใ‚ฆใƒณใ‚ตใƒผ: ใชใ‚‹ใปใฉใ€‚
Chris: I see.
ๅฒธ: ๆถˆ่ฒป่€…ใฎๅฅๅบทๅฟ—ๅ‘ใŒ้ซ˜ใพใฃใฆใใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€ใใฎๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ“ใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใฉใ‚“ใฉใ‚“ๅผทใใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
Chris: Consumers are becoming more health conscious, and of course this trend will only become more and more pronounced from here on out.
ๅฒธ: ๅผŠ็คพ(ๅผŠ็คพ)ใฎๅผๅฝ“ใฏใ€้‡Ž่œไธญๅฟƒใฎใƒ˜ใƒซใ‚ทใƒผใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ๆ™‚ไปฃใฎใƒ‹ใƒผใ‚บใ‚’ใคใ‹ใ‚“ใ ใ“ใจใŒๆˆๅŠŸใฎ็ง˜ใ‘ใคใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
Chris: Our company's boxed lunches are healthy, as they're mainly composed of vegetables, so you could say that the secret of our success is the fact that we grasped the needs of the times.
ใ‚ขใƒŠใ‚ฆใƒณใ‚ตใƒผ: ๅธ‚ๅ ดใซใฏๅ‡บใ›ใชใ„่™ซ้ฃŸใ„ใฎ้‡Ž่œใ‚„่ฆ‹ใŸ็›ฎใฎๆ‚ชใ„้‡Ž่œใ‚’ใ€่พฒๅฎถใ‹ใ‚‰ๅฎ‰ใ่ฒทใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจ่žใใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€‚
Chris: I heard that you buy worm-eaten vegetablesโ€ฆugly vegetables that can't be sold commercially and so on directly from the farmer's, cheap?
ๅฒธ: ใใ‚Œใฏใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚นใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใฏใ€ใ‚€ใ—ใ‚ใ€Œใ‚‚ใฃใŸใ„ใชใ„ใ€ใจใ„ใ†่€ƒใˆใ‹ใ‚‰ๅง‹ใ‚ใŸใ“ใจใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
Chris: That's something that grew more out of the idea of avoiding wastefulness rather than from a business concept.
ๅฒธ: ใ‚ˆใ่€ƒใˆใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚่™ซ้ฃŸใ„ใฎ้‡Ž่œใฏใใกใ‚“ใจๆด—ใˆใฐ้ฃŸในใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
Chris: Think about it. If you wash a worm-eaten vegetable properly, you can eat it.
ๅฒธ: ใ‚€ใ—ใ‚่™ซใ‚‚้ฃŸใ‚ใชใ„้‡Ž่œใฎใปใ†ใŒๅฑใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹๏ผŸ
Chris: Rather, don't you think that a vegetable that even the worms won't touch is more dangerous?
POST CONVERSATION BANTER
Naomi: ใƒ€ใ‚คใ‚ขใƒญใ‚ฐใฎๆœ€ๅพŒใซใ€ใ€Œใ‚€ใ—ใ‚่™ซใ‚‚้ฃŸใ‚ใชใ„้‡Ž่œใฎใปใ†ใŒๅฑใชใ„ใ€ใฃใฆ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ‘ใฉใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€ใ†ใกใฎๆฏใŒใ‚ˆ๏ฝžใ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใญใ€‚
Chris: ใƒŠใ‚ชใƒŸๅ…ˆ็”ŸใฎใŠๆฏใ•ใ‚“ใŒ๏ผŸ
Naomi: ใ†ใกใฏ่พฒๅฎถใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‘ใฉใ€ๅฐใ•ใ„็•‘ใ€ใพใ‚ใ‚ฌใƒผใƒ‡ใƒณใฟใŸใ„ใชใฎใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใใ“ใงใ€ๆฏใŒ้‡Ž่œใ‚’่‚ฒใฆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ใงใ€ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚ใ€Œ่™ซใ‚‚้ฃŸใ‚ใชใ„้‡Ž่œใ€ใŒใ€ใฉใ†ใ—ใฆๅฑ้™บใ ใ‹ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™๏ผŸ
Chris: ใใ‚Œใฏใ€่พฒ่–ฌใงใ™ใญใ€‚่พฒ่–ฌ agricultural chemical ใงใ™ใญ๏ผ
Naomi: ใใ†ใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใ€‚ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ๆ—ฅๆœฌใฎ้‡Ž่œใฏๅฎ‰ๅ…จใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจ่ชฟในใŸใ‚‰ใ€ๆ—ฅๆœฌใฎ่พฒ่–ฌใฎๅŸบๆบ–ใฏใ€ใ‚ซใƒŠใƒ€ใ€ใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใ€ใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใ‚ธใƒผใƒฉใƒณใƒ‰ใ€ใ‚ชใƒผใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒชใ‚ขใจใ‹ใฎๅ›ฝใ€…ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ใ‹ใชใ‚ŠๅŽณใ—ใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™ใฃใฆใ€‚
Chris: ใ‚ใ€ใ˜ใ‚ƒใ‚ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๆ—ฅๆœฌใฏใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใจใ‹ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่พฒ่–ฌใ‚’ไฝฟใ‚ใชใ„ใ€‚่ฆใ™ใ‚‹ใซใ€ๆ—ฅๆœฌใฎ้‡Ž่œใฏไธ–็•Œ็š„ใซ่ฆ‹ใฆใ‚‚ๅฎ‰ๅ…จโ€ฆโ€ฆใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใญใ€‚
Naomi: ใใ†ใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ใŸใ ใ€็งใฎๆฏใŒ่จ€ใ†ใซใฏใ€ใ€Œ่พฒ่–ฌใ‚’ไฝฟใ‚ใชใ„ใง่‚ฒใฆใ‚‹ใจใฉใ†ใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจใฏ่™ซใŒใคใใ€‚ใŠใ„ใ—ใใฆๅฎ‰ๅ…จใช้‡Ž่œใซใฏ่™ซใŒใคใใฎใŒ่‡ช็„ถใ ใ‚ˆใ€ใจใ„ใ†่ฉฑใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚ใ€Œ้€†ใซใ€1ๅŒนใ‚‚่™ซใŒใ„ใชใ„้‡Ž่œใฃใฆๆ€–ใ„ใ‚“ใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใฎ๏ผŸ ใชใ‚“ใ‹ใ€่พฒ่–ฌไฝฟใฃใฆใ‚‹ใ‚“ใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใฎ๏ผŸใ€ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎใงใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใƒ’ใƒณใƒˆใซใ“ใฎ่ฉฑใ‚’ๆ›ธใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
Chris: ใชใ‚‹ใปใฉ๏ฝžใ€‚
ใƒ€ใ‚คใ‚ขใƒญใ‚ฐใซใ€ใ€Œ่ฆ‹ใŸ็›ฎใฎๆ‚ชใ„้‡Ž่œใฏใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใซๅ‡บใ›ใชใ„ใ€ใฃใฆ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ไพ‹ใˆใฐใ€Œๆ›ฒใŒใฃใŸใ‚ญใƒฅใ‚ฆใƒชใ€ใฏๅฃฒใ‚Œใชใ„ใจใ‹ใ€‚
Naomi: ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚ˆใ่žใใพใ™ใญ๏ฝžใ€‚
Chris: ใพใฃใ™ใใชใปใ†ใŒใŠใ„ใ—ใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ(็ฌ‘๏ผ‰
Naomi: ใ‚ใ‚(็ฌ‘) ๅ‘ณใฏไธ€็ท’ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใญ๏ฝžใ€‚ใงใ‚‚ใ€ๆ›ฒใŒใฃใŸใ‚ญใƒฅใ‚ฆใƒชใซใคใ„ใฆ่จ€ใˆใฐใ€ๅธ‚ๅ ดใงๅฃฒใ‚Œใชใ„ใฎใซใฏ็†็”ฑใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใ€‚
Chris: ใˆใ€ใฉใ‚“ใช็†็”ฑใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
Naomi: ใ‚ญใƒฅใ‚ฆใƒชใฃใฆ้‹ใถใจใใซ็ฎฑใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡๏ผŸ
Chris: ใฏใ„ใ€‚
Naomi: ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใพใฃใ™ใใฎใปใ†ใŒ้‹ใณใ‚„ใ™ใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚ๆ›ฒใŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ€็ฎฑใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ใจใใซใ€ใ“ใ†ใถใคใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€ใ‹ใ•ใฐใฃใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ€‚ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ๆ›ฒใŒใฃใŸใ‚ญใƒฅใ‚ฆใƒชใฏๅธ‚ๅ ดใงใฏๅซŒใ‚ใ‚Œใกใ‚ƒใ†ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
Chris: ใชใ‚‹ใปใฉใญ๏ฝžใ€‚็ดๅพ—ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
Naomi: ใงใฏใ€ๅ˜่ชžใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
VOCAB LIST
Chris: Let's take a look at the vocabulary for this lesson.
ๆœ€ๅˆใฎๅ˜่ชžใฏ๏ผŸ
Naomi: ๅ“่ณช็ฎก็† [natural native speed]
Chris: quality control
Naomi: ๅ“่ณช็ฎก็† [slowly - broken down by syllable]ใ€ๅ“่ณช็ฎก็† [natural native speed]
Chris: And next.
Naomi: ไพกๆ ผ็ซถไบ‰ [natural native speed]
Chris: price competition
Naomi: ไพกๆ ผ็ซถไบ‰ [slowly - broken down by syllable]ใ€ไพกๆ ผ็ซถไบ‰ [natural native speed]
Chris: And next.
Naomi: ๆฅญ็ธพ [natural native speed]
Chris: achievement, business performance, results
Naomi: ๆฅญ็ธพ [slowly - broken down by syllable]ใ€[natural native speed]
Chris: And next.
Naomi: ๆ™ฏๆฐ— [natural native speed]
Chris: business conditions, economic conditions
Naomi: ๆ™ฏๆฐ— [slowly - broken down by syllable]ใ€[natural native speed]
Chris: And next.
Naomi: ไฝŽ่ฟท [natural native speed]
Chris: slump, stagnation
Naomi: ไฝŽ่ฟท [slowly - broken down by syllable]ใ€[natural native speed]
VOCAB AND PHRASE USAGE
Naomi: ใงใฏใ€ใ“ใฎใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณใซๅ‡บใฆใใŸ่กจ็พใ‚’็ขบ่ชใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
Chris: ๆœ€ๅˆใฎ่กจ็พใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
Naomi: ๅณ่‚ฉไธŠใŒใ‚Š
Chris: ๅณ่‚ฉใ‚ใŒใ‚Š๏ผŸ Right shoulder up??(็ฌ‘)
Naomi: (็ฌ‘)ใพใ‚ใ€่จณใฏใใ†ใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ฝžใ€‚ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚’ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ใฉใ‚“ใฉใ‚“ๆ•ฐใŒๅข—ใˆใ‚‹ใจใ€ๅณใซ่กŒใใจใ€ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใŒใ“ใ†ไธŠใŒใฃใฆใ„ใใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ ๆ„ๅ‘ณๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™๏ผŸ
Chris: ใ‚๏ฝž ใ€So picture a graph that rises up to the right as the figures get bigger?
Naomi: ใใ†ใใ†ใ€‚ใ€Œๅณ่‚ฉไธŠใŒใ‚Šใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใฎใฏใ€ใฉใ‚“ใฉใ‚“ๆ•ฐใŒๅข—ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
Chris: ใ€Œๅณ่‚ฉไธŠใŒใ‚Šใ€ใฏ่‹ฑ่ชžใ ใจใ€ใพใ‚ใ€ "growing,"ใจใ‹ "soaring" ใจใ‹ "ever-rising"ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
Naomi: ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
Chris: ใ˜ใ‚ƒใ‚ใ€้€†ใซใ€Œๅณ่‚ฉไธ‹ใŒใ‚Šใ€ใจใฏ่จ€ใˆใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
Naomi: ใŠใŠ๏ผใ‚ˆใ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใพใ™ใญ๏ผ(็ฌ‘) ใฉใ‚“ใฉใ‚“ๆ•ฐใŒๆธ›ใฃใฆใ„ใใ“ใจใงใ™ใญใ€‚ใ€Œๅณ่‚ฉไธ‹ใŒใ‚Šใ€
Chris: ใธใƒผใ€‚So the opposite expression is ๅณ่‚ฉไธ‹ใŒใ‚Š. This means "declining" or "shrinking".
ใ˜ใ‚ƒใ‚ใ€ๆฌกใฎใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
Naomi: ๅฎ‰ใ‹ใ‚ใ†ๆ‚ชใ‹ใ‚ใ†
Chris: ใ€Œใ‹ใ‚ใ†ใ€ใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
Naomi: ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€Œใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€ใจๅŒใ˜ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ใฎใ€ใ€Œใ‹ใ‚ใ†ใ€ใฏ i-adjective ใฎๅพŒใ‚ใซใคใ„ใฆใ€ไบˆๆƒณใ‚’่กจใ™ใ‚“ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€Lesson 17ใฎPDFใซ่ฉณใ—ใๆ›ธใ„ใฆใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใฎใงใ€็ตถๅฏพใซ่ชญใ‚“ใงใŠใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
Chris: In the PDF of Lesson 17, there's a detailed write up about the usage of the auxiliary verb ใ‹ใ‚ใ†, which indicates the speaker's conjecture.
Naomi: ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ๅฎฟ้กŒใงใ—ใŸใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
Chris: ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ใ˜ใ‚ƒใ‚ใ€Œๅฎ‰ใ‹ใ‚ใ†ๆ‚ชใ‹ใ‚ใ†ใ€ใฎๆ„ๅ‘ณใฏใ€ใ€Œๅฎ‰ใ„ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€ๆ‚ชใ„ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
Naomi: ใใฎใจใŠใ‚Šใงใ™ใญใ€‚ใ€Œๅฎ‰ใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใฏใ€ๆ‚ชใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ ใ‚ใ†ใชใใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ใ€Œๅฎ‰ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใซ่‰ฏใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใฏใชใ„ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใญใ€‚
Chris: ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ†ใ€‚"if something is cheap, its quality will most likely be poor"ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใญใ€‚
Naomi: ใฏใ„ใ€‚
Chris: ่‹ฑ่ชžใฎใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใซใ€"you get what you pay for."ใจใ„ใ†ใฎใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ใใ‚Œใจไผผใฆใ„ใพใ™ใญใ€
Naomi: ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ†ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใญใ€‚ใ™ใ”ใไผผใฆใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใงใฏใ€ๆ–‡ๆณ•ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Šใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚

Lesson focus

Naomi: ใ“ใฎใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณใงใฏใ€ใ€Œๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€ใ‚„ใ€Œ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ€ใชใฉใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๆ„่ฆ‹ใ‚’่จ€ใ†ใจใใซไพฟๅˆฉใช่กจ็พใ‚’ๅ‹‰ๅผทใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
Chris: In this lesson, you'll learn useful expressions for stating your opinion, such as ๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹, ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใ„, and so on.
ใ€Œๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€ใฏใ€Œๆ€ใ†ใ€"to think" ใฎ [ๅ—ใ‘่บซ Passive form] ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚
Naomi: ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ใงใ‚‚ใ€Passiveใฎใƒ‹ใƒฅใ‚ขใƒณใ‚นใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Šใชใใฆใ€ใ€Œ็งใซใฏ๏ฝžใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ๅฝขใงใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๆ„่ฆ‹ใ‚’่กจใ™ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใตใ†ใซ่ฆšใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใ•ใ‚“ใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใ ใจใ€ใฉใ†ใ„ใ†่จณใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹ใญ๏ผŸ
Chris: ใ€Œ็งใซใฏ๏ฝžใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€ใ€‚ใพใ‚่‹ฑ่ชžใ ใจใ€"it seems... to me,"ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
Naomi: ไพ‹ใˆใฐใ€็งใซใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็„ก้ง„ใ ใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€‚
Chris: To me, it seems like a waste.
Naomi: ็งใซใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ่‡ช็„ถใ ใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€‚
Chris: To me, it seems natural.
Naomi: ใ€Œ็งใซใฏ๏ฝžใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใฎใฏใ€ใ€Œ็งใฏ๏ฝžใจๆ€ใ†ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ใŸใ ใ€ใ€Œ๏ฝžๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€ใ‚’ไฝฟใ†ใจใ€ใ€Œ่‡ช็„ถใซใใ†ใชใ‚‹ใ‚“ใ ใ€ใ€Œ่‡ช็„ถใซใใ†ๆ€ใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใƒ‹ใƒฅใ‚ขใƒณใ‚นใŒๅ…ฅใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
Chris: ใชใ‚‹ใปใฉใ€‚
Naomi: ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ€Œใ„ใ‚ใ‚“ใช็Šถๆณใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ€่‡ช็„ถใซใใ†ๆ€ใˆใ‚‹ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใชใฎใงใ€ใ€Œๆ€ใ†ใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใฏใ€ใ€Œ๏ฝžใจๆ€ใ†ใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใฏใ€ๅฎข่ฆณ็š„ใชใƒ‹ใƒฅใ‚ขใƒณใ‚นใŒๅผทใใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
Chris: ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚So basically "็งใซใฏ๏ฝžใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹" sounds more objective than "็งใฏ๏ฝžใจๆ€ใ†".
Naomi: ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใ€Œ็งใซใฏใ€ใฏ็œ็•ฅใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
Chris: ใƒ€ใ‚คใ‚ขใƒญใ‚ฐใฎไพ‹ๆ–‡ใŠ้ก˜ใ„ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
Naomi: ไฝ•ใจใ‹ๆฅๅนดใซใฏ200ๅบ—็›ฎใ‚’ใ‚ชใƒผใƒ—ใƒณใงใใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
Chris: "One way or another next year we hope to be able to open our 200th shop."
Naomi: ใงใฏใ€ๅ•้กŒใงใ™ใ€‚็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใฏใ€ŒไปŠๅนดใฏๆ™ฏๆฐ—ใŒใ‚ˆใใชใ‚‹ใ€ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ใ€Œๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€ใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใกใ‚‡ใฃใจๅฎข่ฆณ็š„ใชๆ„Ÿใ˜ใซ่จ€ใฃใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
(wait for 10sec)ใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚
Chris: ไปŠๅนดใฏๆ™ฏๆฐ—ใŒใ‚ˆใใชใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€‚"It seems that the economy will get better this year." ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
Naomi: ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ใ€Œ๏ฝžใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€ใ ใ‘ใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใใฆใ€ใ€Œใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ๅฝขใ‚‚ใ‚ˆใไฝฟใ„ใพใ™ใฎใงใ€ใใฎๅฝขใ‚‚่ฆšใˆใฆใŠใใจใ„ใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
Chris: ใ˜ใ‚ƒใ€ๆฌกใฎๆ–‡ๆณ•ใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใ€Œ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ€ใ‚’่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
Naomi: ใฏใ„ใ€‚ใ€Œ๏ฝžใฏ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ€ใฏใ€Œ๏ฝžใฏ่จ€ใ†ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใชใ„ใ€ใจใ‹ใ€Œ๏ฝžใฏๅฝ“ใŸใ‚Šๅ‰ใ ใƒปๅฝ“็„ถใ ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
ใ“ใ‚Œใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใ ใจใฉใ†่จณใ—ใพใ™ใ‹ใญ๏ผŸ
Chris: "it's needless to say that...", ใจใ‹ "it goes without saying that..."ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
Naomi: ไพ‹ใˆใฐใ€็•™ๅญฆใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใฏใ€ใŠ้‡‘ใฏๅฝ“็„ถๅฟ…่ฆใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ใ€Œ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ€ใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆ่จ€ใ†ใชใ‚‰โ€ฆโ€ฆใ€‚
Chris: ็•™ๅญฆใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใซใŠ้‡‘ใŒๅฟ…่ฆใชใฎใฏใ€่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ€‚
"It goes without saying that you need money to study abroad."
Naomi: ใ“ใ‚“ใชใตใ†ใซ่จ€ใ„ๆ›ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ใ‚‚ใ†1ใคไพ‹ๆ–‡ใ‚’่ชญใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
ใ‚ฟใƒใ‚ณใŒๅฅๅบทใซๆ‚ชใ„ใฎใฏ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ€‚
Chris: "It goes without saying that smoking is bad for your health."
Naomi: ใ‚ฟใƒใ‚ณใŒๅฅๅบทใซๆ‚ชใ„ใฎใฏๅฝ“็„ถใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚ใงใฏใ€ๅ•้กŒใงใ™ใ€‚ใ€Œๅฅๅบทใ€ใฏๅคงๅˆ‡ใงใ™ใ€‚ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๅฝ“ใŸใ‚Šๅ‰ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚ใงใฏใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ใ€Œ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ€ใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใ€่จ€ใฃใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
Chris: (wait for 10 sec) ๅฅๅบทใŒๅคงๅˆ‡ใชใฎใฏ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ€‚
"It goes without saying that health is important."
Naomi: ใŠใŠใ€ใใฎใจใŠใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
Chris: ใƒŠใ‚ชใƒŸๅ…ˆ็”Ÿใ€ใ€Œ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใใ€ใจใ„ใ†่จ€ใ„ๆ–นใ‚‚ใ‚ˆใ่žใใพใ™ใญใ€‚
Naomi: ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ™ใ”ใ„ใ„ใ„ใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใงใ™ใญใ€‚ใ€Œ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ€ใฏใ€ๆ–‡็ซ ใฎๆœ€ๅพŒใ€็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใซๆฅใฆใพใ™ใ‘ใฉใ€ๅ‰ฏ่ฉžใฎๅฝข "The adverbial formโ€ ใฎใ€Œ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใใ€ใฏใ€ๆ–‡ใฎ็œŸใ‚“ไธญใซๅ‡บใฆใใพใ™ใ€‚
ใ“ใฎใ€Œ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใฎใฏใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใ ใจไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹ใญ๏ผŸ
Chris: ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€โ€not to mention,"ใจใ‹ "let alone" ใจใ‹"not to speak of"ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
Naomi: ใ€Œ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใใ€ใฎไพ‹ๆ–‡ใ‚„ใ€Œ๏ฝžใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใฏใ€ใฎ่ชฌๆ˜ŽใฏPDFใซ่ผ‰ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใฎใงใ€ใœใฒ่ชญใ‚“ใงใŠใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใญใ€‚
Chris: ใ‚ชใƒผใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ชใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณใฏ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใใ€PDFใ‚‚ใใกใ‚“ใจใƒใ‚งใƒƒใ‚ฏใ—ใŸใปใ†ใŒใ„ใ„ใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
Naomi: ใŠใŠใ€ใ™ใ”ใ„๏ผใ€Œ่จ€ใ†ใพใงใ‚‚ใชใใ€ใจใ€Œๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€ใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎ2ใคใฎๆ–‡ๆณ•ใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใใ‚ŒใŸใ‚“ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
Chris: ใฏใ„ใ€‚

Outro

Naomi: ใ™ใฐใ‚‰ใ—ใ„๏ผ ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใ•ใ‚“ใŒใ€ใ†ใพใใพใจใ‚ใฆใใ‚ŒใŸใฎใงใ€ใ“ใฎใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณใฏใ“ใ“ใพใงใ€‚
Chris: Go to Japanesepod101.com, and check out the PDF for more details.
Naomi: ใใ‚Œใ˜ใ‚ƒใ‚ใ€ใพใŸใ€‚
Chris: ใพใŸๆฌกๅ›žใ€‚

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