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INTRODUCTION
Natsuko:
こんにちは。なつこです。
Peter:
Peter here. Beginner lesson, season 2, #29. Post Office #1. Natsuko-san, in Japanese, “post office” is...
Natsuko:
郵便局
Peter:
We covered this in a previous Survival Phrases lesson.
Natsuko:
Oh yes.
Peter:
A while back but today, we are going to get into a little more detail. So for anybody who is interested, maybe before you hear this one, you want to check out that lesson and I think if you hear that one, this one will go much smoother.
Natsuko:
You are right.
Peter:
But with that said, today’s lesson covers a lot of really good grammar points, ones that we covered in the previous season. Natsuko-san, when was the last time you went to the post office?
Natsuko:
Ah quite a while.
Peter:
Well, now in Japan, you can mail letters from convenience stores.
Natsuko:
Yes.
Peter:
There are people with post office signs, a little T with a line above it everywhere. So you don’t necessarily have to go to the post office. Most of the time you go to the post office in Japan for?
Natsuko:
Sending parcels.
Peter:
Really? I would say for banking.
Natsuko:
Oh yeah right.
Peter:
But that’s a whole another lesson. Today we are going to talk about sending parcels. With that said, Natsuko-san, shall we?
Natsuko:
Yes.
Peter:
Here we go.
DIALOGUE
マサノリ:
すみません。これをイギリスに送りたいのですが。
Masanori:
Sumimasen. Kore o Igirisu ni okuritai n desu ga.
局員:
小包ですか。
Kyokuin:
Kozutsumi desu ka.
マサノリ:
はい。
Masanori:
Hai.
局員:
航空便と船便とありますが、どちらになさいますか。
Kyokuin:
Kōkūbin to funabin to arimasu ga, dochira ni nasaimasu ka.
マサノリ:
着くのに、どれくらい差がありますか。
Masanori:
Tsuku no ni, dore kurai sa ga arimasu ka.
局員:
船便ですと、航空便より料金は安いですが、1カ月くらいかかります。航空便ですと、1週間以内には着きます。
Kyokuin:
Funabin desu to, kōkūbin yori ryōkin wa yasui desu ga, ikkagetsu kurai kakarimasu. Kōkūbin desu to, isshūkan inai ni wa tsukimasu.
マサノリ:
どうしようかな…。
Masanori:
Dō shiyō ka na....
もう一度お願いします。ゆっくりお願いします。
マサノリ:
すみません。これをイギリスに送りたいのですが。
Masanori:
Sumimasen. Kore o Igirisu ni okuritai n desu ga.
局員:
小包ですか。
Kyokuin:
Kozutsumi desu ka.
マサノリ:
はい。
Masanori:
Hai.
局員:
航空便と船便とありますが、どちらになさいますか。
Kyokuin:
Kōkūbin to funabin to arimasu ga, dochira ni nasaimasu ka.
マサノリ:
着くのに、どれくらい差がありますか。
Masanori:
Tsuku no ni, dore kurai sa ga arimasu ka.
局員:
船便ですと、航空便より料金は安いですが、1カ月くらいかかります。航空便ですと、1週間以内には着きます。
Kyokuin:
Funabin desu to, kōkūbin yori ryōkin wa yasui desu ga, ikkagetsu kurai kakarimasu. Kōkūbin desu to, isshūkan inai ni wa tsukimasu.
マサノリ:
どうしようかな…。
Masanori:
Dō shiyō ka na....
次は英語が入ります。
マサノリ:
すみません。これをイギリスに送りたいのですが。
Masanori:
Sumimasen. Kore o Igirisu ni okuritai n desu ga.
Masanori:
Excuse me. I'd like to send this to the U.K.
局員:
小包ですか。
Kyokuin:
Kozutsumi desu ka.
Post Office Staff:
Is it a parcel?
マサノリ:
はい。
Masanori:
Hai.
Masanori:
Yes.
局員:
航空便と船便とありますが、どちらになさいますか。
Kyokuin:
Kōkūbin to funabin to arimasu ga, dochira ni nasaimasu ka.
Post Office Staff:
There's airmail and surface mail. Which would you like to use?
マサノリ:
着くのに、どれくらい差がありますか。
Masanori:
Tsuku no ni, dore kurai sa ga arimasu ka.
Masanori:
How much difference will there be in the delivery time?
局員:
船便ですと、航空便より料金は安いですが、1カ月くらいかかります。航空便ですと、1週間以内には着きます。
Kyokuin:
Funabin desu to, kōkūbin yori ryōkin wa yasui desu ga, ikkagetsu kurai kakarimasu. Kōkūbin desu to, isshūkan inai ni wa tsukimasu.
Post Office Staff:
Surface mail is cheaper than airmail, but it will take about a month (for your package to reach its destination.) Airmail will get it there in about a week.
マサノリ:
どうしようかな…。
Masanori:
Dō shiyō ka na....
Masanori:
I wonder what I should do...
POST CONVERSATION BANTER
Peter:
ナツコさん、今日の会話どう思いましたか?
Natsuko:
うーん、航空便は高いんですよね?
Peter:
Yep airmail is expensive.
Natsuko:
Well, maybe it depends on the destination but I think it can be quite expensive.
Peter:
Comparatively definitely expensive but then again the boat is about three months land mail.
Natsuko:
Not three months!
Peter:
Three months and things go missing at each stop.
Natsuko:
Umm really?
Peter:
I have no idea. Ah well, let’s take a look at today’s vocab and Natsuko-san, what do we have first?
VOCAB LIST
Natsuko:
郵便局
Peter:
Post office.
Natsuko:
ゆ・う・び・ん・きょ・く「郵便局」
Peter:
Next we have
Natsuko 局員
Peter:
Staff.
Natsuko:
きょ・く・い・ん「局員」
Peter:
Natsuko-san, can 局員 be used in all types of situations?
Natsuko:
No I don’t think so. It’s only used for organizations with 局
Peter:
At the end.
Natsuko:
Yes. So like 放送局
Peter:
All right. Here is my question for you. Sometimes drug stores...
Natsuko:
薬局
Peter:
薬局
Natsuko:
Yes right.
Peter:
So can we say 局員 in there?
Natsuko:
I think we usually use 店員
Peter:
店員
Natsuko:
Because it’s a store, store clerk.
Peter:
Got it. So the “pharmacy” in Japan is
Natsuko:
薬局
Peter:
But I think it’s a bit of a different nuance between the two types of organizations.
Natsuko:
You are right.
Peter:
Next we have
Natsuko:
小包
Peter:
Parcel, package.
Natsuko:
こ・づ・つ・み「小包」
Peter:
And the kanji here, first character means
Natsuko:
小(こ) small.
Peter:
Second character
Natsuko:
包(つつみ) Package.
Peter:
Yeah to wrap up. Small wrap up, package. Next we have
Natsuko:
航空便
Peter:
Airmail.
Natsuko:
こ・う・く・う・び・ん「航空便」
Peter:
Two words here. First we have
Natsuko:
航空
Peter:
Which is
Natsuko:
Aviation.
Peter:
Nice word Natsuko-san. I knew that one too. Let’s just move on to the next one.
Natsuko:
便
Peter:
Which is
Natsuko:
flight.
Peter:
So aviation flight.
Natsuko:
But 便 also means “mail.”
Peter:
Yes. Two meanings for well, several meanings for the word 便 and one of them is “mail”. So we have “aviation mail”. Next we have
Natsuko:
船便
Peter:
Surface mail.
Natsuko:
ふ・な・び・ん「船便」
Peter:
Now the first character here is actually
Natsuko:
船 Ship.
Peter:
So “ship mail” but I guess if there is no water, this would include.
Natsuko:
Ah that’s because it’s in Japan.
Peter:
Yeah.
Natsuko:
You now going overseas, it will literally be overseas, you have to go through some kind of water.
Peter:
Yes.
Natsuko:
To go to a foreign country from Japan.
Peter:
Exactly. Now my question for you like this new fad, my new question for you is, what do Japanese people say when they are in a foreign country and they are going to use surface mail. For example, if they are in Shanghai and they are going to send something to Mongolia and they are talking about surface mail, how would you say that?
Natsuko:
I am not sure because that’s in an occasion that’s never happened here in Japan.
Peter:
You should have said, I’d ship it to Korea and then back over. Yeah so that’s something to look into. Can you call the embassy or the consulate in Shanghai?
Natsuko:
I am not sure.
Peter:
Next we have
Natsuko:
Peter:
Difference, variation.
Natsuko:
Peter:
Next we have
Natsuko:
料金
Peter:
Fee, charge, fare.
Natsuko:
りょ・う・き・ん「料金」
Peter:
Followed by
Natsuko:
かかる
Peter:
Take time.
Natsuko:
か・か・る「かかる」
Peter:
Also we should point out here, I think “take” is probably a better translation because it can also “take money” どのぐらいかかる
Natsuko:
Right.
Peter:
So context here. So “take” as in “take time” or “take money.”
Natsuko:
Right.
Peter:
Next we have
Natsuko:
どれくらい
Peter:
How long, how much.
Natsuko:
ど・れ・く・ら・い「どれくらい」
Peter:
Can you give me a sample sentence?
Natsuko:
ここから駅まで、どれくらい時間がかかりますか?
Peter:
“From here to the station, how long does it take?” Now notice the time here どれくらい時間がかかりますか? If we didn’t have the time here and you want a taxi.
Natsuko:
Yes.
Peter:
This can mean “money.” In the sentence
Natsuko:
ここから駅まで、どれくらいかかりますか?
Peter:
“From here to the station, about how much money would it take?”
Natsuko:
Yeah it can mean both.
Peter:
It can mean both, again context. And we have
Natsuko:
着く
Peter:
To arrive at, to reach.
Natsuko:
つ・く「着く」
Peter:
The first speaker. Let’s take a look at the first thing he said, not the first part but the second sentence.
LESSON FOCUS
Natsuko:
これをイギリスに送りたいのですが。
Peter:
“I want to send this to England”. The latter part ~たいのですが this is kind of set.
Natsuko:
Oh yes.
Peter:
When asking for something. Now I will get into this in a minute but before that, let’s just run through this really quick. First we have
Natsuko:
これ
Peter:
This followed by
Natsuko:
Peter:
Object marker.
Natsuko:
イギリス
Peter:
England
Natsuko:
Peter:
“To”. Particle に here is marking direction, “to”.
Natsuko:
送りたい
Peter:
Want to send.
Natsuko:
~のですが
Peter:
“This England to I want to send.” That’s what we have literally. I want to send this to England. When expressing your desire to do something, you can soften it a bit by adding
Natsuko:
~のですが
Peter:
Or
Natsuko:
~んですが
Peter:
Which is a contraction of “no”. And this shows your emphasis but the guy at the end softens it. So it doesn’t come across as so coarse.
Natsuko:
Yes.
Peter:
But smoother, a bit more polite.
Natsuko:
Yes. It’s like asking their advice, asking the person’s advice because like what shall I do is inferred after が
Peter:
So “I want to do this but”
Natsuko:
But…
Peter:
“What do I do...”
Natsuko:
Yes.
Peter:
Even though you know what you are doing. Thank you Natsuko-san. And then we have, let’s just run through these lines. We are not going to go through them.
Natsuko:
小包ですか?
Peter:
Is it a small package?
Natsuko:
はい
Peter:
Yes.
Natsuko:
航空便と船便とありますが、どちらになさいますか?
Peter:
“We have airmail and surface mail. Which will it be?” Some very polite Japanese in here but before we get into that, let’s look at the first part.
Natsuko:
航空便
Peter:
Airmail.
Natsuko:
Peter:
And the particle と in there. And
Natsuko:
船便
Peter:
Surface mail.
Natsuko:
ありますが
Peter:
Here we have と again followed by
Natsuko:
ありますが
Peter:
We have both but…
Natsuko:
But…”What shall I do” is inferred after が
Peter:
So notice how we have と twice. We have airmail and we have surface mail.
Natsuko:
ありますが
Peter:
There is
Natsuko:
どちらになさいますか?
Peter:
Which will it be. Now どちら is polite for
Natsuko:
どっち
Peter:
Which になさる This is the extremely polite Japanese 尊敬語 for する which is “do”. So literally “which do will you”. “Which will you do” or “which one will you use?” Now first, in order to really understand this, let’s break it down to lowest common denominator どちら becomes
Natsuko:
どっち
Peter:
に stays the same. Then we have
Natsuko:
する.
Peter:
So どっちにする which will it be
Natsuko:
Yes.
Peter:
If you go out to a restaurant with your friends and you are looking at the menu
Natsuko:
Yes.
Peter:
I could say to Natsuko
Natsuko:
どっちにする?
Peter:
Okay. Natsuko can say to Peter どっちにする? “Which will it be.” Now if it’s in a more polite situation, let’s take it up one level of politeness.
Natsuko:
どちらにしますか?
Peter:
So this is more polite. So maybe when you are first getting to know someone どちらにしますか? So する becomes しますか but here this is a very polite situation.
Natsuko:
どちらになさいますか?
Peter:
Let’s take it out one more notch of politeness. Let’s show you the root form of this verb.
Natsuko:
なさる
Peter:
It means “to do”. It’s the 尊敬語 Extremely polite Japanese for “to do.”
Natsuko:
Yes.
Peter:
So どちらになさる “which will it be” but this verb must be in its polite form. So we have the polite form of an extremely polite Japanese verb.
Natsuko:
なさいます
Peter:
And we have
Natsuko:
Peter:
Question marking particle. So “which will it be”. Then he asks a question.
Natsuko:
着くのにどれくらい差がありますか?
Peter:
“For it to get there, about how big is the difference.” So Natsuko-san, what part here, what tells us that we are talking about time?
Natsuko:
He says 着くのに
Peter:
And this gives it away. “Arrive to, arrive for.” “For arrival, to arrival.”
Natsuko:
Yes it’s like “as for arrival.”
Peter:
Nice. “As for arrival. About how long, about how big is the difference.”
Natsuko:
Yes.
Peter:
And again we are talking about time. Then we have
Natsuko:
船便ですと、航空便より料金は安いですが
Peter:
“Surface mail is cheaper than airmail but”
Natsuko:
1カ月くらいかかります。
Peter:
“It takes about one month.” Now literally surface mail, this ですと is the conditional “if.” It marks the conditional If. “If it’s surface mail, airmail, then fee cheap” but that’s the literal translation. “If surface mail airmail then fee cheap but. If it’s surface mail, it’s cheaper, lower than airmail but it takes about one month.” Then we have
Natsuko:
航空便ですと、1週間くらいで着きます。
Peter:
“If you use airmail, it will take about one week” and then he is left to think.
Natsuko:
どうしようかな。
Peter:
So here, he is thinking to himself and here the かな comes in because he is thinking about what to do speaking to himself. That’s why up until now, we had all polite Japanese and now we have informal. All right Natsuko-san, I think that’s going to do it for today.
OUTRO
Natsuko:
A lot of information.
Peter:
Information overload. We will be back with part 2 next week. That’s going to do it for today.
Natsuko:
それじゃあ、また今度。

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October 26th, 2016 at 5:21 pm
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Pin san,
Konnichiwa.
Yes, they have the same meaning.
If you change the word order, the meaning doesn’t change. 😄
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Pin
October 17th, 2016 at 10:52 am
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I’m not sure how to use より
The sentence in this lesson, “船便ですと、航空便より料金は安いですが”
Can I also say “船便ですと、料金は航空便より安いですが” ?
I usually see ‘noun1+は+noun2+より+adjective’.
It’s the first time I see ‘noun2+より+noun1+は+adjective’.
Are they the same?

October 20th, 2014 at 1:09 pm
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Hi Joseph,

Thank you for posting!
Fortunately, yes! 😄 The lessons were recovered and there was a happy ending :thumbsup:😎
Now you can enjoy those lessons. Let us know if you have questions. 😎

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Joseph
October 18th, 2014 at 12:22 pm
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Mina-san konnichiwa!
Okay, It’s kind of strange asking since it has been 8 years but I’m curious.
I was reading the comments for this lesson and I was blown away!
What happened with the robbery at Jpod on June, 13th, 2007? 😮
Was the robber caught? And was he punished ‘’Jpod style'’? 😎
Tell us the story onegaishimasu! 😇
Joseph

May 27th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
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Russell-san,
yes, that’s right😄
This was the polite speech from the post office staff, and it’s quite common
to use this expression.

Natsuko(奈津子),
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Russell
May 25th, 2013 at 11:58 pm
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I was wondering about the conditional ‘desu to’. I haven’t really reached this conditional in my studies but looking ahead I thought you added the ‘to’ to the plain present form of a verb. Is that not right?

jenchanted
June 21st, 2010 at 2:36 pm
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Mayumi-san

Thanks a lot. That question has been haunting for for ages. 😄

Jen

June 16th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
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jenchanted-san,

Many ages ago there was a rule such as “noun + gurai” and any other word than noun usually takes kurai. But now it doesn’t matter. So, you can use both of them in any case. 😉
- 10-sai gurai or 10-sai kurai (about 10 years old)
- sukoshi gurai or sukoshi kurai 😀

jenchanted
June 15th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
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How come sometimes I hear ~kurai and other times it’s ~gurai. Is there a rule about this? Thanks a lot.

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June 14th, 2007 at 6:41 am
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Peter-san and JP101 crew

おめでとうございます!😎 😀😉 S_R_C