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This entry was posted on Friday, December 8th, 2006 at 7:54 pm and is filed under Intermediate Season 1 . You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
23 Responses to “Intermediate Lesson #38 - My Tokyo Traveblogue - Day 3”
Friday at 7:54 pm
すごい! そんな早くレッソンをおくりしてありがとうございます! 本当に ”お待たせしませんでした”ね。 ミクジ
Friday at 8:56 pm
Mina-san, we hope you have a great weekend wherever you are!
Saturday at 2:25 am
The intro in the MP3 says this is Lesson 37 but it should be Lesson 38. I guess this makes up for last week when you told us in the MP3 that it as Lesson 38 when it was Lesson 37. Are you TRYING to confuse us.
じゃ また
ジョン
Saturday at 3:02 am
Perhaps someone can enlighten me on this structure.
きょうはこれからほかのところをみせないといけないから、
He is saying that he has to show another place. But here uses みせない. Doesn’t that mean that he is NOT SHOWING the other place. Then いけない means he can’t go, it is not possible.
This doesn’t make sense to me.
Is this use of the double negative used to imply (must)?
Now I am worried that this is something I was supposed to have learned for JLPT Level 3.
ありがとう
ジョン
Saturday at 3:42 am
The ~ないといけない construction with verbs is a more informal version of the obligation construction, ~なくてはいけない. It’s made up of:
[non-past, neg verb] + と + いけない
This と is the conditional と, for which in S1とS2, S2 is understood to be a natural consequence of S1. The いけない is NOT the negative, potential form of 行く. It’s the negative of the verb いける, which means to be good or be good at. It’s the same いけない as in the ~なくては version.
So the construction literally means, “if X doesn’t Y, then as a natural consequnce, it’ll be bad.” Where X is the subject and Y is the action. Or much more simply, “X has to do Y.”
Saturday at 3:51 am
Jasonさん,
Thank you very much for this clear explanation. I didn’t know about the verb “いける” and it is not in my Pocket PC dictionary. I did find it on JDIC.
So the sentence is something like “If I don’t show the other places, it would be bad…”
Thanks
ジョン
Saturday at 4:36 am
Hello
Just want to say a huge thanks to everyone at JP101!
I sat san kyuu in london last weekend. I’m pretty sure I passed. I’m not usually a confident person, but thanks to this site I have improved so much in just a few months.
keep up the good work.
Saturday at 5:25 am
Mattさん,
Did you see Nick T. and Steve C. at the JLPT? Seems like a lot of people took the JLPT 3級 in London.
また ね
ジョン
Saturday at 5:41 pm
Definitely another great episode!!!
I think that these Intermediate Lessons are invaluable for all the people aiming at 日本語能力試験2級 next year.
どうもありがとう!!!
カルロ
Saturday at 7:44 pm
すごい!
How accurate are the prices quoted in this lesson? Also, what happens after you decide on a place? How much is a deposit? Any other charges?
Also, ちょっと意見がある。
よし先生はアメリカにいるとき、ピータの家にすんで、ピータ先生は日本に住んだら、よし先生と一緒に住むのはどう?それなら、引越しする必要はない。
Sunday at 7:17 am
Hey Carlo-san long time you haven’t post I only see you post on Miki-san blogs only eehhh!
good to see your posts!
Hey Matt-san thanks for sharing us that you went to do the test in LONDON WOW! a great city too! Good Luck my friend you’ll pass I feel confident of it ok!
About today’s lesson great Day 3? You guys must have started last month because its the first time I see it and listen to it!
S_R_C
Sunday at 2:22 pm
i think that the prices are fairly representative for places in Japan, excluding Tokyo. 50,000 inside Tokyo seems a bit low, but not impossible to find.
what ends up costing you a lot though are things like key money (礼金 reikin), deposit, and agent fees, which can be more than 4 times your monthly rent.
When I lived 45 minutes from Tokyo (in Chiba prefecture), I was paying 54,000/month. It was an older apartment, with a 6 mat room, a 8-9 mat room, a large kitchen, and a large balcony. about 8 minutes from the nearest station.
Tuesday at 7:52 pm
maxiewawa-san,
The prices are accurate. Well the prices varies but these are the common prices that ordinary people would pay. And what annie-san described is perfect to your question.
And today, there are places that don’t require those things, too.
And about your suggestion, no thanks! But Peter-san was saying that he might wanna live with you in Shanghai.
Tuesday at 8:39 pm
ヒヒヒヒ。。。
いつもいらっしゃい!
Thursday at 3:46 am
hello, have nice day…
…
Tuesday at 3:59 am
Another good intermediate lesson. I learned some new vocabulary, like TOHO, and the counter JOU.
Tuesday at 1:38 pm
Devin-san,
Thank you for your nice comment!
Do you know the counter “tsubo” for the space?
Thursday at 6:00 am
No, I’ve never heard of that one. I looked it up and see that it is approximately 36 square feet. Is “tsubo” commonly used? Is it usually in the context of real estate?
Friday at 3:31 pm
Devin-san,
It’s only used when you say how large the real estate is.
Friday at 9:24 pm
I’ve been going back through the archives listening to these old lessons, and am struggling sometimes with the after the dialogue banter. Particularly the very lengthy explanations, in japanese, of japanese words. Sometimes the conversation is so rapid and laced with so many as yet never explained words that comprehension can quickly become bewilderment.
There are several excanges in this and other lessons in the travelogue series which lost me, - here’s the first! If someone could decipher this, I’d be eternally grateful! Merci!
(time 10:20) “nani ka kibou wo tsutaeru toki ni kono kotoba wo tasu koto de nihonjin rashii” What does ‘tasu” mean?
Also, what do the words ‘kazueru’, and ‘kigakuteki’ mean?
Thanks all!
Monday at 9:51 am
Tachikomaさん,
Thanks for your comment!
In the sentence you pointed out, 足す (tasu) means “to add”. So it’s like “by adding this word…”
For “kazueru”, I think you might mean “kazoeru”, which means to count. I think “kigakuteki” might be wrong too - did you hear it in this lesson?
Thursday at 6:38 am
Hello Jessi-san,
Found a typo in the PDF in the last romaji line:
Fukikae ga suku dewa arimasen
Should say:
“suki” 好き
Thanks much!
Thursday at 9:41 am
Hi Geraldさん,
Thanks as always! It has been fixed
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