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September 6th, 2006 | help Need help?

Learn Japanese with JapanesePod101.com! It is imperative that you listen to today’s lesson! Well, that’s just a bit of a joke, because in today’s grammar point, we introduce the imperative form of Japanese class one verbs. The conversation takes place at a yakyuu game between a coach and his player, so pay attention to the way social status affects speech! After you listen, drop by JapanesePod101.com for the alternate ending bonus track!

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33 Responses to “Beginner Lesson #119 - That’s an Order”

avatar JapanesePod101.com says:

Mina-san,

Today’s location is リジャイナ・Rijaina - hello to all of our listeners in Regina, Saskatchewan! :grin:

Yoroshiku onegai shimasu!

avatar Michael D. Cassidy says:

You are all sleeping late.

avatar Nathan says:

Mina-san,

Just an interesting tidbit of info that we ran across earlier. The phrase “tomorrow is another day” originates from Gone With The Wind, and is the last four words of the book and movie.

In addition, we would like to add a little extra note about ゲームセット・gēmu setto - game set. In Japanese, this phrase is used with all types of sporting events. However, in English, this term is reserved for tennis. (Or so I believe… do you know of any other events using this?)

avatar Mark says:

Michael-san, leave us alone. No problem in sleeping late.

Have a great day everyone!

Nathan-san, I haven’t listened to the lesson, but I’ve only heard the phrase “game, set” with tennis as well. Most commonly in the phrase “game, set, match”.

avatar Daniel Beck says:

Regina, Saskatchewan? :shock: Did you guys do a random search for a village or something?

avatar Belton says:

明日があるさ(ウルフルズ) is one of 2 and a half songs I can manage at Karaoke. :lol:

There is also the phrase in that song “the answer is blowing in the wind” (Bob Dylan? )
答えは風の中

まいいか - - never mind.
I came across this before and asked a friend about it when I couldn’t figure it out. I was told the phrase まいいか shows a very irresponsible attitude!!

avatar Liz21 says:

Michael-san,
It isn’t fair! :twisted: You live in an earlier time zone than some others of us!! :shock: I mean, what if Belton, in the UK, started razzing us about sleeping late!! :shock:

avatar Sindy says:

I agree with Daniel-san I didn’t even knew that country exist :lol:

Yeah Liz-san is right you guys have the sun by your side when right now is Wednesday Sept 06 2006 1:47 over there is already Sept 07 2006 2:14am so that is why I never get to be first post but someday I will make an effort and be the first one to post like Michael D. Cassidy by the way he is in New York City Liz not UK! :cool:

Today’s lesson very funny and positive ya ta Yoshi :grin:

ハンサム nathan :wink: I definitive willl go to visit JP101 in the future!

avatar Rob says:

Nice lesson.

I’m guessing tomorrows lesson will tell of the newly born Prince!

avatar Daniel Beck says:

Here’s my example for using imperatives:

When I’m on my bike ride, and Japanese pedestrians are wandering and weaving left and right on the sidewalk, I yell out: まっすぐ歩け! :evil:

Yoshiさん、

Very very nice with your “very very nice” today! :mrgreen: I knew you could get it right! :razz:

BTW, unlike someone, of course I’ve heard of Saskatchewan, Canada. But how did you guys come up with Regina? How about a shout out to Monterey, California!

avatar Michael D. Cassidy says:

yeh yeh liz sama you’re sleeping late because you’ve been www surfing until 5 a.m.

avatar Mark says:

Danielさん, maybe it was chosen because it’s the capital of Saskatchewan?
http://wikitravel.org/en/Regina

avatar JockZon says:

やっきゅは面白いですから、私はやがて今日のレッソンと本当に聞きます。でもそれの前、練ります。 :cool:

何が日本で新ですか?

avatar Vicky says:

I should say…Lizdesu once in a while???? :lol:

It was funny and Very Very Nice. Yoshi-san is getting funnier and funnier eh? Pretty good at getting along with Peter-san as well.

I’m still behind, and having trouble downloading from itunes. :evil:

Is Dainel-san ever go back to office again? I thought he will make some video from Peter-san??? :roll:

Mata Ne! :mrgreen:

avatar Daniel Beck says:

Markさん、

本当だ!勉強になりました。 :smile: But, I have to ask, did you know that before looking it up? :razz: Hmm, less than 200,000 people in the capital of a province. :shock:

Our Vickyちゃん、

Yes, I will carry out my mission! :twisted:

avatar Hugo says:

The bonus track is priceless, I’am still lauching :mrgreen:
To tell the true before today I didn’t knew that country exist, well “always is something new to learn” :grin:

I can’t wait for see the videos… :mrgreen:

P.D.: I have a 8 is my last japanese test, I’am really happy :razz:

avatar Mark says:

Danielさん、

Unfortunately, I can’t say I did. :razz: I would have guessed Saskatoon myself. Always good to learn new things though!

avatar Kandy says:

I take it Canadians don’t generally post. :sad: I’m not caught up on the lessons yet, but I thought I would submit a comment anyway. Regina is actually a very nice city. Small, but beautifully laid out with a ton of greenery. And a really good Sushi bar. :grin: Cheers!

avatar Max says:

In last week’s intermediate lesson, we got ‘yamete kure!’

Would this be ’stop please!’?

avatar Peter says:

Max-san, その通り! :wink: You got it! Be back with more comments later.

avatar Alan says:

I’m having some trouble understanding ‘kure’. I’ve been blissfully under the impression that the imperative form is the same as the Conditional Base (Base 4). My initial reaction was: Why isn’t it ‘kurere’, after all, the dictionary form is ‘kureru’; so if we shorten it to ‘kure’, what happens with the imperative form of ‘kuru’?.

After looking at a couple of grammar books, it looks like another case of irregular endings. While the Base 4 (Conditional Base) of ‘kuru’ is indeed ‘kure’ or sometimes ‘kuro’, the imperative is completely irregular and is ‘koi’. Thus this frees up ‘kure’ to be the irregular imperative form for ‘kureru’.

While I was looking at these, I also noticed that there is also the verb ‘kureru’ (to grow dark), which is almost identical to ‘kureru’ (to give), except that the imperative form is ‘kurero’. And now I come to look, there’s a bunch of other conditional’s ending in ‘o’

agero = give
akero = open
tabero = eat
osiero = teach
and there’s lot’s more.

I’ve also noticed that in two-word verbs, ’suru’ becomes ’suro’

The bottom has fallen out of my happy world of regular japanese grammar. However these all seem to be -eru Ichidan verbs. Do all -eru Ichidan verbs go to -ro in the imperative?

avatar Alan says:

Correction: ’suru’ becomes ’siro’ or ’seyo’ depending on which grammar book I’m reading. Noooooooo…..!

avatar Alan says:

-iru ichidan verbs seem to go to -iro. So it looks fairly consistent that Ichidan verbs end in -ro in the imperative. Is this right? Strange that one of my grammar books totally fails to mention it. :sad:

avatar Jason says:

The imperative forms generally go like this:

Class I (五段) verbs:
-Change the last syllable to it’s corresponding え-column version

-行く -> 行け
-言う -> 言え
-泳ぐ -> 泳げ
-走る -> 走れ
-読む -> 読め
-出す -> 出せ

Class 2 (一段) verbs:
-change the ending る to ろ

-教える -> 教える
-やめる -> やめろ
-答える -> 答えろ
-支える -> 支えろ
-着る -> 着ろ
-起きる -> 起きろ

The exception here is the “giving” くれる which goes to くれ. Why? I don’t really know.

Class 3 (the troublemakers):

Both irregular:
-する -> しろ
-来る -> 来い

I *believe* せよ is an older imperative form of する. しろ is much more common nowadays.

avatar Jason says:

Whoops!
教える -> 教える
should be
教える -> 教えろ

avatar Nathan says:

Alan-san,

The imperative form of class two and three verbs is actually featured in today’s coming lesson and PDF, so stay tuned :wink:

avatar Yoshi says:

Daniel Beckさん、

ありがとう! :razz: I’m trying!

I long to … well, I don’t wanna scare people off this time. :wink:

avatar JapanesePod101.com says:

Alan-san, please check out lesson #120, read the PDF, and please let us know if this helps. You were too quick for us. :wink:

avatar Alan says:

Jasonさん、Nathanさん、JapanesePod101さん、

Thanks for the responses. My problem was that my most used (I was going to say favourite) grammar book states that the imperative ending is -e, but failed to mention that this was Yodan verbs only & that Ichidan verbs go to -ro. I’ll go check todays lesson now, you can be sure that I’ll remember it :lol:

Jason, thanks for the note about how する and くる change. I will mark up my grammar book now :razz:

Alan

avatar Jason says:

My problem was that my most used (I was going to say favourite) grammar book states that the imperative ending is -e, but failed to mention that this was Yodan verbs only & that Ichidan verbs go to -ro.

Um….you might want to consider chaning grammar books then.

avatar Jason says:

Changing, even.

avatar Peter says:

Alan-san, what’s the name of the grammar book?
I believe yodan verbs are now usually referred to as godan verbs.

avatar Alan says:

I’ve mostly been using “Japanese Verbs & Essentials of Grammar 2nd Edition” by Rita Lampkin. Mostly I’ve found it easy to use, but in this case, it completely missed out the imperative form of ichidan verbs.

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