みなさん, ごぞんじのように、日本は地震が多いです。 Have you ever experienced one? What did you do? 日本語でも英語でも教えてください。

Bob1さん　こんにちは。
　そうですね。地震・雷よりむしろ家事する親父の方が怖いかもしれません。
おもしろいギャグですね
(Yes, you did. Very good! I like your post. )

Motoko
Team JapanesePod101.com

second
these sentences are correct?
nihon no tabemono ga Kaette oishii tabemono desu.
nihon no tabemono ga oishii tabemono hazu ga nakatta.
nihon no tabemono nante oishii tabemono da to omou.
nihon no tabemono nante Kaette oishii tabemono desu.

could use “kaette” without the clause that precedes it?
(kyou)katte shiken ga aru.
katte kono mondai ga taihen desu.
katte nihongo ga omoshiroi desu

are these sentences correct?
tanoshisugita no you na patti hazu ja nai desu.
kaette tanoshisugita you na patti deshita.
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hazu ja nai & kaette ,are they have close meaning?
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i can’t find this lesson “Learn Japanese Fast Phrases”

Hi wael-san,
Fast Phrases is the name of one of our video series on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/japanesepod101

Jessi
Team JapanesePod101.com

wael-san,
The expression “kaette” is used when the result was contrary and usually it has to take your own participation/action. In other words, you tried to make things better, but “on the contrary” as result things got worse, or vice versa.
In your sentence, you found the party interesting(even if you expected it’d be very boring) and that’s merely your impression; you didn’t try any effort to make it more interesting, right? So, you cannot use “kaette”. As a successful case, you can say things like;
paatii de moriage you to shitara, kaette shizumatte shimatta.
(= I tried to make the party more lively/interesting, but ended up make people silent)

Regarding the second sentence of yours, the correct sentece would be;
paatii wa son’nani tanoshii hazu ga nai to omotte ita.

One of the important points is “tanoshisugiru”. When you deny “too interesting”, you wouldn’t use “sugiru”, but it takes “amari —nai” or “son’nani —-nai”.
Another point is, if you want to say “should/shouldn’t be interesting”, “hazu” should be next to “tanoshii” (or any adjective you’d like to use).

Hope this helps!

Natsuko(奈津子),
Team JapanesePod101.com

wael-san,
unfortunately, no
In casual conversation, young people tend to use this “tanoshisugiru/tanoshisugita” as positive meaning, but it’s strictly colloquial.
“—sugiru” means something is extreme, literally meaning “cross the line”.
Positive and good “tanoshii” crossing the line doesn’t really make sense.
So, correct expression is “totemo tanoshii” and when you want to express
“super enjoyable that you didn’t expect”, you can use this “omotta yori zutto tanoshikatta” or “(kon’na ni tanoshii paatii ni naru towa) omotte mo minakatta”.

By the way, “you na” cannot be used with affirmative expression.
If you use “—sugita”, you already difine the situation, so “youna” doesn’t
go with it.

Hope this helps!

Natsuko(奈津子),
Team JapanesePod101.com

wael-san,
did you see the explanation of “it has to take own participation/action”?
If so, will you let us know where?
As Lesson Note says, “kaette” means the result was contrary on one’s expetation.

The sentence in question means…
People might thing going out when the earthquake occur should be the way
to keep ourselves safe (= expectation), but it’s actually the contrary and it’s very dangerous.

Hope this helps!

Natsuko(奈津子),
Team JapanesePod101.com

wael-san,
oh I see.
Sorry if I made you confused.

There’re several different difinitions and/or meanings in words, and
“kaette” anyway means “contrary to one’s expectation”.
However, if you read my explanation well, I also added
“In other words, you tried to make things better, but “on the contrary” as result things got worse, or vice versa.”
地震が起きている時にすぐに外に飛び出すのはかえって危険です。
In this sentence, “you try/tried to make things better” (= active participation)
is （地震が起きている時に）すぐに外に飛び出す HOPING or THINKING that going out
is the best way. However, the reality is contrary to this “hope” or “expectation” and it’s worse or more dangerous.

What I explained earlier can be understood as different usage
from the sentence like
地震が起きている時にすぐに外に飛び出すのはかえって危険です。
This sentence is a typical for “result contrary to one’s expectation”, but
it doesn’t have subject of specific someone (like “I” or “you”).
安全な道へ移動したつもりだったが、かえって危険だった。
In this case, someone thought s/he diverted believing it was the safer
way, but the road taken was more dangerous.
This is easier to understand, right?

Hope it helps.

Natsuko(奈津子),
Team JapanesePod101.com

wael-san,
“kaette” is, like you wrote, something unexpected. You need the reason to use
this expression.
The correct way to say your first case would be, for example,
“machigaete satou o ireteshimatta ga, tabetemitara, kaette oishiku
natte ita”

As to アルコールを毎日・・・・sentence,
this is based on the common sense or general/common opinion about alcohol:
drinking is not good for health.
However, drinking “proper amount” (= 適量) everyday actually IS good for the
health. That’s why “kaette” is used here.

Many sentences with “kaette” include this kind of “common sense”.
Your last sentence “paatii wa omotta yori tanoshii desu” is VERY GOOD and very
correct. However, “paatii wa kaette tanoshii desu” doesn’t make sense.
We usually expect party to be “fun”, right?

Natsuko(奈津子),
Team JapanesePod101.com

wael-san,
“kaette” doesn’t just mean “contrary of expectation”. It has to be an
“outcome” which was a contrary to your expectation.
When you expect the party would be boring, but it turns out it was fun,
the best to use are “omotta yori”, “yosou ni hanshite” etc.
Also, when it’s about subjective feelings like “tanoshii”, it’s more
complicated because it’s not really an outcome of the event.
If you use verb “tanoshimu” in potential form, it suits much better
in many sentences.

=> watashi no sensei no houhou no okage de, kaette tanoshimemashita.
=> okurete shimatta to omotta keredo, shiai ni wa mani aimashita.
=> yakusoku no jikan ni okuresou datta ga, tomodachi kara okureru to renraku
ga ari, kaette watashi ga matasareta.

In most of the cases, “kaette” is used when your effort of trying to make
the current bad situation good ends up being worse, or vice versa.

Natsuko(奈津子),
Team JapanesePod101.com