Comments on: Lower Intermediate Lesson S4 #12 - What Did You Expect? http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/ Learn Japanese with Daily Podcasts from Tokyo Whether you are Japan-bound or a seasoned speaker, our lessons offer something for everyone. We incorporate culture and current issues into each episode to give the most informative, both linguistically and culturally, podcasts possible. For those of you with just the plane ride to prepare, check our survival phrase series at Japanesepod101.com. One of these phrases just might turn your trip into the best one ever! Yoroshiku O-negai Shimasu! Wed, 23 May 2012 05:24:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Tako http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-529941 Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:23:54 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-529941 あの二人お祖母さんとお祖父さんはそのドラマは微妙だと言ったのに、 実際はストーリーにすごく凝っているみたいです。 二人はそのドラマを楽しんだと思います。 あの二人お祖母さんとお祖父さんはそのドラマは微妙だと言ったのに、
実際はストーリーにすごく凝っているみたいです。
二人はそのドラマを楽しんだと思います。

]]> by: leosmith http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-525102 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:58:11 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-525102 To answer ゆういちさん's question, I think it was a racoon dog. And I also think racoon noodles are delicious! (That's strange - even though I'm a paid subscriber, and logged on, I still have to fill in my name and email. As this discourages comments, can you guys please fix this? Thanks!) To answer ゆういちさん’s question, I think it was a racoon dog. And I also think racoon noodles are delicious!

(That’s strange - even though I’m a paid subscriber, and logged on, I still have to fill in my name and email. As this discourages comments, can you guys please fix this? Thanks!)

]]> by: amost http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-522527 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:32:25 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-522527 Why is "kanousei" translated as "probability" or "possibility"? In english, these are definitely different. "probability" indicates the possibility that is most likely, where as "possibility" does not specify. Is there no distinction of these concepts in japanese? Why is “kanousei” translated as “probability” or “possibility”? In english, these are definitely different. “probability” indicates the possibility that is most likely, where as “possibility” does not specify. Is there no distinction of these concepts in japanese?

]]> by: メー http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-517988 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:00:20 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-517988 直美先生、 :dogeza: ありがとうございました.わかりました。 直美先生、

:dogeza:
ありがとうございました.わかりました。

]]> by: Naomi http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-517960 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:38:34 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-517960 メーさん 全部書き言葉にしても大丈夫です。:grin: ただ、「ーかもしれない」は書き言葉ですが、報告書にはあまり使わないかもしれませんね。「可能性がある」とかの方がいいと思います。:wink: メーさん
全部書き言葉にしても大丈夫です。 :grin:
ただ、「ーかもしれない」は書き言葉ですが、報告書にはあまり使わないかもしれませんね。「可能性がある」とかの方がいいと思います。 :wink:

]]> by: メー http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-517318 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:20:50 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-517318 直美先生、:wink::kokoro: ありがとうございました。 もうちょっと聞きたいです。 「かもしれない」、「だろう・でしょう」、「はずだ」は書き言葉ですか？話し言葉ですか？ レポートの中には、使えますか？　 :roll: 先週から、上司は毎週の週報を書かせます。　すごく難しいです。。:cry: 直美先生、 :wink: :kokoro:

ありがとうございました。

もうちょっと聞きたいです。
「かもしれない」、「だろう・でしょう」、「はずだ」は書き言葉ですか？話し言葉ですか？
レポートの中には、使えますか？　
:roll: 先週から、上司は毎週の週報を書かせます。　すごく難しいです。。 :cry:

]]> by: Naomi http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-517142 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:08:43 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-517142 L33tminion-san そうですね。"Should"にはたくさん意味がありますよね。 You're right. English "should" can be translated in many ways in Japanese. 日本語⇔英語 の訳はとても難しいので、たくさん例文を読むのが一番だと思います。 Sometimes it's really tough to find the right translation. I think the best way to get the meaning is read sample sentences as many as possible. :razz: メー-san Thank you for the kind comment as always:kokoro: >>>Is 「～と思う」 for expressing opinion　but not possibility ? You're right. So -と思う can be combined with 「かもしれない」「だろう・でしょう」and 「はずだ」. ex) 雨が降るかもしれないと思う:wink: L33tminion-san
そうですね。”Should”にはたくさん意味がありますよね。
You’re right. English “should” can be translated in many ways in Japanese.
日本語⇔英語 の訳はとても難しいので、たくさん例文を読むのが一番だと思います。
Sometimes it’s really tough to find the right translation. I think the best way to get the meaning is read sample sentences as many as possible. :razz:
メー-san
Thank you for the kind comment as always :kokoro:
>>>Is 「～と思う」 for expressing opinion　but not possibility ?
You’re right. So -と思う can be combined with 「かもしれない」「だろう・でしょう」and 「はずだ」.
ex) 雨が降るかもしれないと思う :wink:

]]> by: メー http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-517062 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:42:35 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-517062 こんにちは,:mrgreen: 可能性：低ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー⇒高 「かもしれない」→「だろう・でしょう」→「はずだ」 「～と思う」は？ Is 「～と思う」 for expressing opinion　but not possibility ? v v v きれいな声ですね～。。:wink: 直美先生は美人のはずです！！！:kokoro: こんにちは, :mrgreen:

可能性：低ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー⇒高
「かもしれない」→「だろう・でしょう」→「はずだ」

「～と思う」は？
Is 「～と思う」 for expressing opinion　but not possibility ?
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v
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きれいな声ですね～。。 :wink: 直美先生は美人のはずです！！！ :kokoro:

]]> by: Yadokari http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-516992 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:16:00 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-516992 thank you for the examples, naomi....thats all i was looking for harmoni thank you for the examples, naomi….thats all i was looking for harmoni

]]> by: L33tminion http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-516985 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:34:05 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-516985 I don't think "should' is generally a good word to use when translating はず because (at least in my experience) it's more often used to indicate that something is preferable or right (like ほうがいい or べき) and only infrequently to mean that something will happen or is expected to happen. Actually, I'm wary of the word "should" in general. Sometimes the meaning of "should" (statement of expectation or suggestion/recommendation or moral judgment) is clear from context, but sometimes it can be unclear which meaning is intended. Since the meanings are quite different, that can be a problem. I don’t think “should’ is generally a good word to use when translating はず because (at least in my experience) it’s more often used to indicate that something is preferable or right (like ほうがいい or べき) and only infrequently to mean that something will happen or is expected to happen.

Actually, I’m wary of the word “should” in general. Sometimes the meaning of “should” (statement of expectation or suggestion/recommendation or moral judgment) is clear from context, but sometimes it can be unclear which meaning is intended. Since the meanings are quite different, that can be a problem.

]]> by: Naomi http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-516974 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:58:37 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-516974 Chris -san そうですね。I agree.　微妙な話ですね。Bimyou na hanashi desune.:roll: Mapi -san :lol::lol::lol::lol: I loved your comment!:lol::lol::lol::lol: Ｓｉｎｄｙシンディー -san It's a cool picture, isn't it? Yadokari-san The 微妙 has many meanings and can be either positive and negative or could be neither, depending on a context. →微妙な違い　subtle difference →微妙な問題 touchy problem sensitive matter →微妙な服 not really great out fit(usually negative connotation) Gabriele -san ゆういちさんに聞いてみますね。:wink: Harmoni -san 謎ですね～。:mrgreen: Chris -san
そうですね。I agree.　微妙な話ですね。Bimyou na hanashi desune. :roll:
Mapi -san
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I loved your comment! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ｓｉｎｄｙシンディー -san
It’s a cool picture, isn’t it?
Yadokari-san
The 微妙 has many meanings and can be either positive and negative or could be neither, depending on a context.
→微妙な違い　subtle difference
→微妙な問題 touchy problem sensitive matter
→微妙な服 not really great out fit(usually negative connotation)
Gabriele -san
ゆういちさんに聞いてみますね。 :wink:
Harmoni -san
謎ですね～。 :mrgreen:

]]> by: Harmoni http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-516950 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:53:28 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-516950 to me, it's sometimes best to NOT take the word's translation literally, ecspecially if it's an evolved meaning of the word. Take the word "bad" for example. for awhile, it actually meant "GOOD!" in english! how would you explain that to a japanese person if they took everything literally??? 犯人は人間じゃないです。どうぶつのはずです。でもね。。。たぶん人間も動物もじゃありません。。。ｈｍｍｍｍ。まだ謎ですね！ to me, it’s sometimes best to NOT take the word’s translation literally, ecspecially if it’s an evolved meaning of the word. Take the word “bad” for example. for awhile, it actually meant “GOOD!” in english! how would you explain that to a japanese person if they took everything literally???

犯人は人間じゃないです。どうぶつのはずです。でもね。。。たぶん人間も動物もじゃありません。。。ｈｍｍｍｍ。まだ謎ですね！

]]> by: Gabriele http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-516930 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:13:06 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-516930 真犯人は誰か教えてくださいね〜　私はすごく知りたいですよ！！ ボナスAudioをください！ 真犯人は誰か教えてくださいね〜　私はすごく知りたいですよ！！
ボナスAudioをください！

]]> by: Yadokari http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-516896 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:02:03 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-516896 could someone explain 微妙 a little further? I dont understand why it can mean delicate, subtle,..and also lame. In english subtle usually has positive implications: a subtle play of words in a poem, a subtle taste in a well-prepared meal....in cases like these is 微妙 analogous to the english subtle? Is 微妙 negatively subtle in that it is not enough of something? peter has often used 微妙 in a positive way in lesson conversations...is it usually positive or negative? could someone explain 微妙 a little further? I dont understand why it can mean delicate, subtle,..and also lame. In english subtle usually has positive implications: a subtle play of words in a poem, a subtle taste in a well-prepared meal….in cases like these is 微妙 analogous to the english subtle? Is 微妙 negatively subtle in that it is not enough of something?
peter has often used 微妙 in a positive way in lesson conversations…is it usually positive or negative?

]]> by: Ｓｉｎｄｙシンディー http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-516882 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:52:57 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2009/06/17/lower-intermediate-lesson-s4-12-what-did-you-expect/#comment-516882 JP101!:wink: I like today's lesson and picture! I love the american eagle and the color purple too. :kokoro: :cool: S_R_C JP101! :wink:

I like today’s lesson and picture! I love the american eagle and the color purple too. :kokoro: :cool: S_R_C

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