Comments on: Japanese Culture Class #55 - Roommate Rivalry Part 1: Give Me a Break! http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/ Learn Japanese with Daily Podcasts from Tokyo Whether you are Japan-bound or a seasoned speaker, our lessons offer something for everyone. We incorporate culture and current issues into each episode to give the most informative, both linguistically and culturally, podcasts possible. For those of you with just the plane ride to prepare, check our survival phrase series at Japanesepod101.com. One of these phrases just might turn your trip into the best one ever! Yoroshiku O-negai Shimasu! Wed, 23 May 2012 04:30:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: タネ http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-456680 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:45:48 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-456680 My family is from Hiroshima, and Hiroshima-ben is a lot like Okayama-ben. Well, they are close geographically! We have the da --> ja; dakara --> jake; shimatta --> shimouta sound changes. There's also desu ga --> jaga; sore --> hoe (so sore dakara, ne--> hoe jake no). and ii (good) is pronounced ee. Mostly, though, there's the general sentence intonation which seems more sweeping than Tokyo; more highs and lows, seems more emphatic or something. By that comparison, Tokyo standard sounds ... flatter? I don't have too much trouble in western Japan, but up north... now that's another story! The Niigata episodes were a real stretch for me! My family is from Hiroshima, and Hiroshima-ben is a lot like Okayama-ben. Well, they are close geographically!
We have the da –> ja; dakara –> jake; shimatta –> shimouta sound changes. There’s also desu ga –> jaga; sore –> hoe (so sore dakara, ne–> hoe jake no). and ii (good) is pronounced ee.
Mostly, though, there’s the general sentence intonation which seems more sweeping than Tokyo; more highs and lows, seems more emphatic or something. By that comparison, Tokyo standard sounds … flatter?
I don’t have too much trouble in western Japan, but up north… now that’s another story! The Niigata episodes were a real stretch for me!

]]> by: Raymasaki http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-423796 Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:45:03 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-423796 kind of sounds like Korean with that extended aa sound This Lesson should have been Titled Okayama Ben. its fun to learn other Dialects BUT learning standard JP is hard enough kind of sounds like Korean with that extended aa sound
This Lesson should have been Titled Okayama Ben.
its fun to learn other Dialects BUT learning
standard JP is hard enough

]]> by: soniak http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-421291 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:28:14 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-421291 Hmmm, well....this is interesting in the sense that I remember now hearing some melodramas on NHK and this dialect was used. It sounds to me a lot like Korean sounds. (not that I know Korean -- to my ear it sounds a lot like this). PS: Please bring Kyoto ben for the next culture lesson! Hmmm, well….this is interesting in the sense that I remember now hearing some melodramas on NHK and this dialect was used. It sounds to me a lot like Korean sounds. (not that I know Korean — to my ear it sounds a lot like this).

PS: Please bring Kyoto ben for the next culture lesson!

]]> by: Hiroko http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419481 Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:20:46 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419481 rene san>I really think you will like the new blog starting next year!!! We are always open to requests/comments :dogeza: Highbridge san> Have you checked 青森弁 lesson? that's 東北弁　:mrgreen: ジャービジ san> すんなよ」とか「すんじゃねぇ」 は、仲のいい男友達ならいいけどそうじゃないとちょっと乱暴に聞こえますね　:shock: rene san>I really think you will like the new blog starting next year!!! We are always open to requests/comments :dogeza:

Highbridge san> Have you checked 青森弁 lesson? that’s 東北弁　 :mrgreen:

ジャービジ san> すんなよ」とか「すんじゃねぇ」 は、仲のいい男友達ならいいけどそうじゃないとちょっと乱暴に聞こえますね　 :shock:

]]> by: ジャービジ http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419348 Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:48:22 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419348 やっぱ方言のレッスン、面白かった :mrgreen: 確かに普通の国語ってちょいとデリケートに聞こえるよな。特に命令形が。女友だちはさ「~ないでね」なんかが女に対して一番いい言い方って教えてくれたんだけど、たまには「すんなよ」とか「すんじゃねぇ」とか言えばいいなって思ってんだけどさ。。。まあ、多分男友だちを作ったらいいかな、はは。 やっぱ方言のレッスン、面白かった :mrgreen: 確かに普通の国語ってちょいとデリケートに聞こえるよな。特に命令形が。女友だちはさ「~ないでね」なんかが女に対して一番いい言い方って教えてくれたんだけど、たまには「すんなよ」とか「すんじゃねぇ」とか言えばいいなって思ってんだけどさ。。。まあ、多分男友だちを作ったらいいかな、はは。

]]> by: Highbridge http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419171 Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:34:15 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419171 Great lesson! For some people it can sound useless, but believe me, when you go to the "real" world in Japan, you will realize that japanese can be spoken in a lot of ways. I'm would like to see "東北弁" and "関西弁" in the future, it would be nice! Congratulations Marky and the Jpod team!:dogeza: Great lesson! For some people it can sound useless, but believe me, when you go to the “real” world in Japan, you will realize that japanese can be spoken in a lot of ways. I’m would like to see “東北弁” and “関西弁” in the future, it would be nice! Congratulations Marky and the Jpod team! :dogeza:

]]> by: rene http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419158 Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:00:05 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419158 Nice show for those who understand very well standard japanese and are already well informed about the general japanese culture. As a beginner, however, I would prefere some more culture lessons about history, geography or arts. Once you did a very nice culture class about Natsume Soseki. Also Miki spoke about some very interesting cultural subjects (I really miss her blog). And I also must mention yojijukogo. Nevertheless, it seems if it is almost a "taboo" to do a lesson about a serious topic. No misunderstanding, I like very much the lightharted lessons, I laugh and learn a lot. But once in a while, a serious topic would make the funny lessons even more funny! Nice show for those who understand very well standard japanese and are already well informed about the general japanese culture. As a beginner, however, I would prefere some more culture lessons about history, geography or arts. Once you did a very nice culture class about Natsume Soseki. Also Miki spoke about some very interesting cultural subjects (I really miss her blog). And I also must mention yojijukogo. Nevertheless, it seems if it is almost a “taboo” to do a lesson about a serious topic. No misunderstanding, I like very much the lightharted lessons, I laugh and learn a lot. But once in a while, a serious topic would make the funny lessons even more funny!

]]> by: maxiewawa http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419116 Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:03:36 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419116 I did better understanding this dialect than Aomori, Pusan and the others! I did better understanding this dialect than Aomori, Pusan and the others!

]]> by: Hiroko http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419066 Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:15:10 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419066 ヨギタ san> The culture class is not a regular-wednesday lesson. We have culture class lessons two-three times a year and this is one of them :wink: Eric san> There will be another culture class coming :mrgreen: Green Airplane san>I love learning different dialects too! I'm from Fukuoka and people there talk very differently from Kansai people. :nihon: キーシャ san>Great!!!! Hope you'll get to talk to them in Okayama ben and surprise them :wink: rigo san> It's interesting that to local people it sounds perfectly normal and to others outside of the region it sounds funny. :lol: but I think we should all be proud of where we come from and our dialects :wink: These culture classes remind me of the song "Boondocks" :roll: ヨギタ san> The culture class is not a regular-wednesday lesson. We have culture class lessons two-three times a year and this is one of them :wink:

Eric san> There will be another culture class coming :mrgreen:

Green Airplane san>I love learning different dialects too! I’m from Fukuoka and people there talk very differently from Kansai people. :nihon:

キーシャ san>Great!!!! Hope you’ll get to talk to them in Okayama ben and surprise them :wink:

rigo san> It’s interesting that to local people it sounds perfectly normal and to others outside of the region it sounds funny. :lol: but I think we should all be proud of where we come from and our dialects :wink:

These culture classes remind me of the song “Boondocks” :roll:

]]> by: rigo http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419045 Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:54:34 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419045 very interesting indeed very interesting indeed

]]> by: キーシャ http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419041 Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:44:07 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-419041 This is PERFECT for me! My host family lives in Okayama and I'd love to live there, therefore to understand the dialect. More Okayama-ben please!! :dogeza: This is PERFECT for me! My host family lives in Okayama and I’d love to live there, therefore to understand the dialect. More Okayama-ben please!! :dogeza:

]]> by: Green Airplane http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-418931 Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:43:37 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-418931 I loved it! More Okayama ben please :-) To answer your question, I was able to guess most of the sound changes da -> ja shimatta -> shimouta In my opinion this kind of exposure to non-standard japanese greatly improves one's abilities to understand spoken japanese. Each language is fluid, dynamic, constanlty chaning, and dialects give a good idea about how a given language can change, what different forms it can take. Plus there is a kind of hidden beauty in this, for the people who can appreciate it. Personally I would appreciate it if you could make as many dialect lessons as possible, not just kansaiben or okayamaben, but any other dialect you can get. I loved it! More Okayama ben please :-)
To answer your question, I was able to guess most of the sound changes
da -> ja
shimatta -> shimouta

In my opinion this kind of exposure to non-standard japanese greatly improves one’s abilities to understand spoken japanese. Each language is fluid, dynamic, constanlty chaning, and dialects give a good idea about how a given language can change, what different forms it can take. Plus there is a kind of hidden beauty in this, for the people who can appreciate it.
Personally I would appreciate it if you could make as many dialect lessons as possible, not just kansaiben or okayamaben, but any other dialect you can get.

]]> by: Eric http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-418926 Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:15:28 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-418926 interesting, glad to see the culture classes back :mrgreen: interesting, glad to see the culture classes back :mrgreen:

]]> by: ヨギタ http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-418916 Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:29:56 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-418916 :shock: なにそれ? :???: I am not sure if I need to learn this stuff, but I wish JPod101 success with this new programme on Wednesday. Nonetheless, I miss Miki's Blog. :shock: なにそれ? :???:
I am not sure if I need to learn this stuff, but I wish JPod101 success with this new programme on Wednesday. Nonetheless, I miss Miki’s Blog.

]]> by: JapanesePod101.com http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-393898 Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:30:00 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/12/10/japanese-culture-class-55-give-me-a-break/#comment-393898 Mina-san, how much of it could you catch? Can you hear the intonation differences? If you’re interested in this dialect, we highly recommend trying out the Line By Line Audio in the Learning Center. You’ll astound your Japanese friends if you can get this intonation down pat. Mina-san, how much of it could you catch? Can you hear the intonation differences? If you’re interested in this dialect, we highly recommend trying out the Line By Line Audio in the Learning Center. You’ll astound your Japanese friends if you can get this intonation down pat.

]]>