Comments on: Newbie Lesson #72 - Nihongo Dōjō - Style You and Beyond 17 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/ Learn Japanese with Daily Podcasts from Tokyo Whether you are Japan-bound or a seasoned speaker, our lessons offer something for everyone. We incorporate culture and current issues into each episode to give the most informative, both linguistically and culturally, podcasts possible. For those of you with just the plane ride to prepare, check our survival phrase series at Japanesepod101.com. One of these phrases just might turn your trip into the best one ever! Yoroshiku O-negai Shimasu! Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:18:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Kare http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-300101 Wed, 14 May 2008 05:23:05 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-300101 Hi... um... is it just me or is the video vocab not working? Hi… um… is it just me or is the video vocab not working?

]]> by: Ｓｉｎｄｙシンディー http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-299979 Tue, 13 May 2008 21:41:36 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-299979 Naomi-sensei! Yes I was sick now I feel much better, thank you I'll take care of myself from now on. :mrgreen: S_R_C Naomi-sensei!

Yes I was sick now I feel much better, thank you I’ll take care of myself from now on. :mrgreen: S_R_C

]]> by: Peter http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-299371 Mon, 12 May 2008 16:55:58 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-299371 プチクレアさん、this is a very interesting idea! 検討します！:wink: We'll look into it. I could use a refresher course myself. Thanks for the great suggestion! プチクレアさん、this is a very interesting idea! 検討します！ :wink: We’ll look into it. I could use a refresher course myself.
Thanks for the great suggestion!

]]> by: プチクレア http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-299190 Mon, 12 May 2008 09:29:04 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-299190 It's a bit strange seeing a Newbie lesson on sunday... :???: :mrgreen: I agree with ジャビージさん about honorific and humble language... The only thing is, it's confusing no matter what level you're at. Considering how difficult knowing when to use which form is, and how wide the subject is, maybe you could plan to make it a week-long topic ? Introducing it at different levels according to days, ie : - on monday, Newbie : the two kinds of "polite language", humble and honorific, and when to use which (humble when you' re talking about yourself and your in-group, honorific when you're talking about someone else) - on tuesday, Beginner : special "polite" verbs such as 申す, 参る, 差し上げる... - on thursday, Lower Intermediate ： お~になる, お~する - on friday, Upper Intermediate : polite language in context (ie business talk, dealing with administration, etc...) Of course those topics have already been explained in several lessons, but having everything in one week gives a kind of unity to a vast subject. For those of us who listen to everything, it gives a nice recap. For those who are only listening to one level or other, they might 1) be tempted to listen to other levels, and discover just how much progress they've made, 2) know exactly where to look should they need some more info. This format might not do for all subjects, but I think it might suit polite language... What do you think ? It’s a bit strange seeing a Newbie lesson on sunday… :???:

:mrgreen:

I agree with ジャビージさん about honorific and humble language… The only thing is, it’s confusing no matter what level you’re at.
Considering how difficult knowing when to use which form is, and how wide the subject is, maybe you could plan to make it a week-long topic ? Introducing it at different levels according to days, ie :

- on monday, Newbie : the two kinds of “polite language”, humble and honorific, and when to use which (humble when you’ re talking about yourself and your in-group, honorific when you’re talking about someone else)
- on tuesday, Beginner : special “polite” verbs such as 申す, 参る, 差し上げる…
- on thursday, Lower Intermediate ： お~になる, お~する
- on friday, Upper Intermediate : polite language in context (ie business talk, dealing with administration, etc…)

Of course those topics have already been explained in several lessons, but having everything in one week gives a kind of unity to a vast subject. For those of us who listen to everything, it gives a nice recap. For those who are only listening to one level or other, they might 1) be tempted to listen to other levels, and discover just how much progress they’ve made, 2) know exactly where to look should they need some more info.

This format might not do for all subjects, but I think it might suit polite language… What do you think ?

]]> by: Naomi http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-299056 Mon, 12 May 2008 02:52:08 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-299056 watermen-san ありがとうございます。:dogeza: Actually, we are thinking about putting more Japanese culture explanation from the next series. ジャービジ -san ありがとうございます。:dogeza: Thank you very much for the feedback!! 参考にさせていただきます。:razz: Ｓｉｎｄｙシンディー-san You were sick?? :shock: Oh, no. Please take care! お大事に!/<i>Odaiji ni!</i> = Take care of yourself Mina-san 皆さんの家族は何人ですか。 <i>Mina-san no kazoku wa nan-nin desu ka? </i> How many family members do you have? 誰と誰と誰と誰ですか？ <i>Dare to dare to dare to dare desu ka?</i> And who is in your family? watermen-san
ありがとうございます。 :dogeza:
Actually, we are thinking about putting more Japanese culture explanation from the next series.

ジャービジ -san
ありがとうございます。 :dogeza:
Thank you very much for the feedback!! 参考にさせていただきます。 :razz:

Ｓｉｎｄｙシンディー-san
You were sick?? :shock: Oh, no. Please take care!
お大事に!/Odaiji ni! = Take care of yourself

Mina-san

皆さんの家族は何人ですか。
Mina-san no kazoku wa nan-nin desu ka?
How many family members do you have?

誰と誰と誰と誰ですか？
Dare to dare to dare to dare desu ka?
And who is in your family?

]]> by: Christmas Burger http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-299009 Mon, 12 May 2008 01:25:41 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-299009 Nope. Different lesson. :mrgreen: Nope. Different lesson. :mrgreen:

]]> by: gillian http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-298897 Sun, 11 May 2008 21:06:33 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-298897 Hey! Isn't this a repeat of Newbie Lesson 71 broadcast on 22 April? Hey! Isn’t this a repeat of Newbie Lesson 71 broadcast on 22 April?

]]> by: Ｓｉｎｄｙシンディー http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-298808 Sun, 11 May 2008 17:55:51 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-298808 JP101/Listeners!:wink: I agree with Watermen, things really have change here since I got sick two months ago, you guys deserve a break so don't get stresset! :mrgreen: S_R_C JP101/Listeners! :wink:

I agree with Watermen, things really have change here since I got sick two months ago, you guys deserve a break so don’t get stresset! :mrgreen: S_R_C

]]> by: ジャービジ http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-298735 Sun, 11 May 2008 14:11:44 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-298735 When you introduce words like 致す and 申す, it might be good to make the distinction between humble and honorific words, or at least say you can only use them about yourself/your in group. I was making mistakes with this until I eventually read up on 敬語, so it might help out the newbies. 差出がましゅうございますが、それをご詮議下さいまし :mrgreen: When you introduce words like 致す and 申す, it might be good to make the distinction between humble and honorific words, or at least say you can only use them about yourself/your in group. I was making mistakes with this until I eventually read up on 敬語, so it might help out the newbies. 差出がましゅうございますが、それをご詮議下さいまし :mrgreen:

]]> by: watermen http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-298656 Sun, 11 May 2008 11:35:23 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/05/11/newbie-lesson-72-nihongo-dojo-style-you-and-beyond-17/#comment-298656 This is a great lesson, can we have more lessons in the newbie series introducing this kind of polite forms and Japanese culture nuances. This is a great lesson, can we have more lessons in the newbie series introducing this kind of polite forms and Japanese culture nuances.

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