Comments on: Japanese Culture Class #52 - Niigata Dialect 1 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/ Learn Japanese with Daily Podcasts from Tokyo Whether you are Japan-bound or a seasoned speaker, our lessons offer something for everyone. We incorporate culture and current issues into each episode to give the most informative, both linguistically and culturally, podcasts possible. For those of you with just the plane ride to prepare, check our survival phrase series at Japanesepod101.com. One of these phrases just might turn your trip into the best one ever! Yoroshiku O-negai Shimasu! Sat, 25 May 2013 19:07:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Jessi http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-617552 Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:55:33 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-617552 Thanks for the comments, everyone! woutt-san, Niigata is well-known for it's ski resorts, as well as Nagano. I would recommend trying one of those places! Thanks for the comments, everyone!

woutt-san,
Niigata is well-known for it’s ski resorts, as well as Nagano. I would recommend trying one of those places!

]]> by: woutt http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-617532 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:06:21 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-617532 nice lesson UWAAAA! YOU CAN SKI IN NIIGATA?:razz::razz::razz::razz: REALLY? because i'm going to japan soon but i haven't decided my ski destination does it have nice tracks? i'm on a average level i can do red (when lucky) (did only one ski holiday before) are there other good places for skiing? bye wout:wink: nice lesson

UWAAAA! YOU CAN SKI IN NIIGATA? :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: REALLY?
because i’m going to japan soon but i haven’t decided my ski destination
does it have nice tracks? i’m on a average level i can do red (when lucky)
(did only one ski holiday before)
are there other good places for skiing?

bye wout :wink:

]]> by: Megan http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-416771 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:01:48 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-416771 I live in Niigata, so I've definately heard some of these phrases before--ばかうめー comes to mind, along with てん, which i didn't realize was dialect. Some of the stuff, though, isn't used commonly (at least, never where I've heard) by the younger crowd, so I'd be reluctant to use it until I practice on a friend from this area, first. Even within the prefecture, there are still differences of speech. Are Rie-san and Yuki-san from northern Niigata or southern? chuetsu? Yuzawa? Not trying to invade privacy, of course... I live in Niigata, so I’ve definately heard some of these phrases before–ばかうめー comes to mind, along with てん, which i didn’t realize was dialect. Some of the stuff, though, isn’t used commonly (at least, never where I’ve heard) by the younger crowd, so I’d be reluctant to use it until I practice on a friend from this area, first. Even within the prefecture, there are still differences of speech. Are Rie-san and Yuki-san from northern Niigata or southern? chuetsu? Yuzawa? Not trying to invade privacy, of course…

]]> by: Thomas Endo http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-388907 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:11:05 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-388907 As an American-born Sansei listening to this cold turkey, it's the first time I've heard Echigo-ben, so getting 20-30% as a non-fluent Japanese speaker on first try is still amazing. My parents are Kibei-nisei who grew up in Fukushima as children and spoke straight Tohoku-ben at home. So, the Tsugaru-ben will probably pose a great challenge because I've heard that my native-speaking uncle (who also grew up in Fukushima) couldn't understand a thing while he listened to a farmer in Aomori.... As an American-born Sansei listening to this cold turkey, it’s the first time I’ve heard Echigo-ben, so getting 20-30% as a non-fluent Japanese speaker on first try is still amazing. My parents are Kibei-nisei who grew up in Fukushima as children and spoke straight Tohoku-ben at home. So, the Tsugaru-ben will probably pose a great challenge because I’ve heard that my native-speaking uncle (who also grew up in Fukushima) couldn’t understand a thing while he listened to a farmer in Aomori….

]]> by: JapanesePod101.com http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-258229 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:32:22 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-258229 Jiroさん, luckily it's a dialect and people who are not from Niigata can't understand it either. So you CAN be fluent! :hachimaki: Jiroさん, luckily it’s a dialect and people who are not from Niigata can’t understand it either. So you CAN be fluent! :hachimaki:

]]> by: Jiro http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-258154 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 03:01:35 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-258154 Although I find these lessons fun and quite amusing, it frustrates me because I feel like I will NEVER be fully fluent.... Although I find these lessons fun and quite amusing, it frustrates me because I feel like I will NEVER be fully fluent….

]]> by: Tuuli http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-257433 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:45:41 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-257433 I really enjoyed this lesson! Thanks, I'm looking forward to more dialects. Sometimes it's fun to listen to things you're not even expected to understand :razz: I really enjoyed this lesson! Thanks, I’m looking forward to more dialects. Sometimes it’s fun to listen to things you’re not even expected to understand :razz:

]]> by: Peter http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-257344 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:16:58 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-257344 I thought this was a great lesson, it's always fun to have something random to pull out when you're joking around with your Japanese friends. My Japanese co-workers (we're in Tokyo) were extremely amused... none of them could understand the dialogue when I had them listen to it! Though they were skeptical that all people in Niigata speak like that, they figured it would only be like おじいさん who would speak with such a thick accent. I thought this was a great lesson, it’s always fun to have something random to pull out when you’re joking around with your Japanese friends.

My Japanese co-workers (we’re in Tokyo) were extremely amused… none of them could understand the dialogue when I had them listen to it! Though they were skeptical that all people in Niigata speak like that, they figured it would only be like おじいさん who would speak with such a thick accent.

]]> by: クリス http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-257150 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:09:28 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-257150 wow, that's interesting...all the different kinds of dialects in niigata alone :shock: i lived in kobe for three years, and there was kansai-ben...but also osaka-ben, kobe-ben, kyoto-ben and wakayama-ben. my friend said her boyfriend's wakayama ben sounded really rough and threatening whatever happened to the nagasaki connection? :oops: did they go back to nagasaki? wow, that’s interesting…all the different kinds of dialects in niigata alone :shock: i lived in kobe for three years, and there was kansai-ben…but also osaka-ben, kobe-ben, kyoto-ben and wakayama-ben. my friend said her boyfriend’s wakayama ben sounded really rough and threatening

whatever happened to the nagasaki connection? :oops: did they go back to nagasaki?

]]> by: markystar http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-257066 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:23:30 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-257066 hahaha, yep you guys are right... there was a Nagasaki dialect lesson (or two). My bad. ジャービジさん、she has a great voice, huh? Shirow66さん、have no fear! we have more culture-related items coming down the pipe. also there were some requests for stuff involving some japanese history, so i hope to get around to doing something about the Bakumatsu around the time of the anniversary of Kondo Isami's death. as for "awwww yeah," some people have picked up the habit themselves :lol: and to be honest, i have no idea where i picked it up from... :lol: :nihon: for those of you who are interested... here is a link to a 標準語→新潟弁コンバーター (standard japanese to niigata dialect translator). i'm not sure what version of niigata-ben it is... seems a little different than the one rie-san and yuuki-san speak - and as an electronic translator, it's bound to be a little wierd... but still fun! http://www2.icn.ne.jp/~sonmin/hougen/henkan.html :nihon: for those of you who are *really* interested... at the middle of this page you can see the same sentence translated into a various regional varieties of niigata-ben. (there are tons of other dialects listed here too, using the same sample sentence; note the varieties of tsugaru-ben as well!) :mrgreen: http://hougen.atok.com/column/doc/pc/honyaku02.html marky hahaha, yep you guys are right… there was a Nagasaki dialect lesson (or two). My bad.

ジャービジさん、she has a great voice, huh?

Shirow66さん、have no fear! we have more culture-related items coming down the pipe. also there were some requests for stuff involving some japanese history, so i hope to get around to doing something about the Bakumatsu around the time of the anniversary of Kondo Isami’s death. as for “awwww yeah,” some people have picked up the habit themselves :lol: and to be honest, i have no idea where i picked it up from… :lol:

:nihon: for those of you who are interested…
here is a link to a 標準語→新潟弁コンバーター (standard japanese to niigata dialect translator). i’m not sure what version of niigata-ben it is… seems a little different than the one rie-san and yuuki-san speak - and as an electronic translator, it’s bound to be a little wierd… but still fun!
http://www2.icn.ne.jp/~sonmin/hougen/henkan.html

:nihon: for those of you who are *really* interested…
at the middle of this page you can see the same sentence translated into a various regional varieties of niigata-ben. (there are tons of other dialects listed here too, using the same sample sentence; note the varieties of tsugaru-ben as well!) :mrgreen:
http://hougen.atok.com/column/doc/pc/honyaku02.html

marky

]]> by: プチクレア http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-257000 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:47:32 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-257000 Great lesson ! I too love those language lessons ! Too bad they're so few and far between. However, マーキー先生, you said, this was the second language lesson after Tsugaru-Ben. But there were some Nagasaki-ben lessons with the Nagasaki Connection gang, right ? Great lesson ! I too love those language lessons ! Too bad they’re so few and far between.

However, マーキー先生, you said, this was the second language lesson after Tsugaru-Ben. But there were some Nagasaki-ben lessons with the Nagasaki Connection gang, right ?

]]> by: ジャービジ http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-256982 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:01:40 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-256982 Great lesson. Rie-san's accent was really cool. I hardly understood any of the original dialogue, even though I understood the standard version. It's certainly different. Looking forward to the next instalment :cool: Great lesson. Rie-san’s accent was really cool. I hardly understood any of the original dialogue, even though I understood the standard version. It’s certainly different. Looking forward to the next instalment :cool:

]]> by: Jason http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-256938 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:18:59 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-256938 <blockquote>I’m curious about Okinawan Japanese…a lot of my students say it’s totally a different language</blockquote> That's because it was! Okinawa was an independent country until it got absorbed by Japan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okinawa#Language_and_culture

I’m curious about Okinawan Japanese…a lot of my students say it’s totally a different language

That’s because it was! Okinawa was an independent country until it got absorbed by Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okinawa#Language_and_culture

]]> by: Shirow66 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-256925 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:39:50 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-256925 The JCC's are my favorite lessons, I hope you guys will be more active in putting them out there because it really has been far between lessons lately. I'm not sure if you have abandoned the non-language related topics(which would be a great shame in my opinion), but I'll gladly take whatever JCC is presented. Marky-san, do your co-workers ever complain about over-frequent aaaaaaaaww yeaah usage? :wink: The JCC’s are my favorite lessons, I hope you guys will be more active in putting them out there because it really has been far between lessons lately. I’m not sure if you have abandoned the non-language related topics(which would be a great shame in my opinion), but I’ll gladly take whatever JCC is presented.

Marky-san, do your co-workers ever complain about over-frequent aaaaaaaaww yeaah usage? :wink:

]]> by: Neil http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-256923 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:37:48 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2008/02/13/japanese-culture-class-52-niigata-dialect-1/#comment-256923 Which of the new grammar is the dialect and which is standard? Which of the new grammar is the dialect and which is standard?

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