Learn Japanese at JapanesePod101.com! This week we return to take a look at Kinoshita’s little adventure in the electronics department store. Today the salesman is suggesting many items for him and trying very hard to close the deal. Will he make the sale this week or not? We’ll take a look at the very useful construction ~tara dō desu ka and its honorific cousin ~tara ikaga deshō ka for making suggestions. Even better than that will get into some other honorific phrases that will really blow away your Japanese friends. After listening, stop by JapanesePod101.com and be sure to leave us a post!
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19 Responses to “Beginner Lesson #172 - B3: Kinoshita in the Komputer Department 2”
JapanesePod101.com says:
December 18th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
Mina-san,
Kinoshita is a pretty passive guy. But at the end of this lesson he seemed to put his foot down, at least on the OS issue. What do think will happen next week?
maxiewawa says:
January 15th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
あのね、introはどこになった？大好きで、今週読めない。。。
Next week? Jobs社長が出るんかもしれない！
ジャブちゃん says:
January 15th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
If these five-part intros are going to be a permanent thing, have you thought about doing an all-in-one MP3 at the end of the weak as a premium feature, like you were doing with the multipart lessons? Also, a PDF with all the transcriptions grouped together would be useful, since I don’t usually get the newbie or beginner S2 ones. As they don’t have kana transcriptions, they could be a good way for me to break into using a kanji dictionary since they’re nice and short.
キティーちゃん says:
January 16th, 2008 at 2:49 am
I can’t follow the high levels, but I listen for the intros!! 
gillian says:
January 16th, 2008 at 3:03 am
I hope Apple is giving you something for the Leopard plug. Actually it is ものすごい, Kinoshita should watch Apple’s ad which is a real downer for Window users. I got the fantastic iPod Touch for Christmas and was wondering whether the amazing Eran could upgrade the iLearning Center for it.
良いお年を
ジリアノ
watermen says:
January 16th, 2008 at 4:03 am
Wow…this lesson is just in time. Today is MacWorld 2008. Steve Job revealed Apple’s new product, Mac Book Air.
Bob1 says:
January 16th, 2008 at 9:03 am
“What do you think will happen next week?”
The computer salesman will try to convince Kinoshita-san to switch to Windows, and Kinoshita-san will turn the tables, convincing the salesman he won’t be targeted with so many computer viruses if he switches to Leopard.
Just kidding. I know you don’t want to irritate all your Windows using listeners.
Bob1 says:
January 16th, 2008 at 9:08 am
BTW, talking about the need to sell JPod101, looks like the government is going to help you. Foreign Minister Masahiko Komura just announced that Japan may consider requiring long-term resident foreigners to have local language ability. So whose palm are you greasing?
Rhys says:
January 16th, 2008 at 9:22 am
しつもんが二つあります。
1.) How is (Verbたら＋どう) different from (Verbた＋方がいい）？
2.) In the dialogue there was ” 今なら２５パーセントオフです！”
What exactly does なら mean?
Thanks,
Ｓｉｎｄｙシンディー says:
January 16th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Mina-sama! 
Excellent Kinoshita-san! 
You should upgrade to Windows Vista Ultimate or wait until SP1 comes out real soon. 
I really like this Kinoshita lessons, keep up this great work. 
S_R_C
Bob1 says:
January 16th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Rhys,
Somebody can correct me if I get any of this wrong, but here are the answers to you questions.
1) Verbたら＋どう means “How about doing such and such?” or more literally, “If you were to do such and such, how would that be?” On the other hand, Verbた＋方がいい means “You should do such and such, or more literally, “It would be better to do such and such”.
2) The なら in the phrase 今なら２５パーセントオフです！ inserts a conditional. If (you buy it) now, it’s 25% off. The “you buy it” is inferred.
Christmas Burger says:
January 16th, 2008 at 11:37 am
About nara and tara, I’ve seen a lot of other lessons here about it. I think if you search for those lessons or check the grammar bank you can find a lot of stuff about those conditionals.
Rhys says:
January 16th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
ありがとう！！
Thanks a lot for the help, appreciate it very much!
プチクレア says:
January 16th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Next week … hmm… Kinoshita will (or at least should) switch to Leopard !!!! No question about that 
. Anyway, if he keeps listening to the 店員さん, he’ll probably end up with two new complete systems…
クリストファー (KC8UFV) says:
January 17th, 2008 at 3:40 am
私のパソコンはウインドスざない。マクざない。スラクウエアーです。
Perhaps Kinoshita should try dumping Windows. I don’t mean going to Mac either.
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Category: Beginner Lessons (S3) |
Grammar: conditional, tara, ~tara dou desu ka | Function: buying computer accessories, suggesting, using a point card | Topic: computers, Mac, point cards, shopping, Windows | Politeness Level: casual, formal, honorific, Polite
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