but now, i take back what i said about kirei. i just received an e-mail from my friend yuu-sensei in osaka and she used the kanji for kirei. lolololol.
but she’s a japanese teacher, so maybe her use of kanji is pretty high level, you know.

keep on rockin’ in NYC!!!
NYC

You da man! Thanks for the speedy and thorough explantion about those elusive kanji for mochiron and kirei. You gave us the ins and outs of how they’re used.

Arigato!

Laurel
NYC

そうです！ I didn’t know the -しなかった form. I am still trying to get to Beginner Lesson #1 . Since joining JPod101 I have done the first 48 Newbie lessons in the last 12 days. When I finish all the Newbie lessons I will start Beginner Season 1 and Season 4 (as they arrive) simultaneously. I studied the ピラニア lesson yesterday. It was a little difficult for me. Still a newbie!

有難う御座います。　

私 JPod101.com.

知るshiru dictionary form
知らないnon-polite negative form
知らなかったshiranakatta is a past form of 知らないshiranai

The verb shiru is used in a affirmative sentence, it’s usually used in ～ている pattern.
ex)
知っていますかShitteimasu ka?
いいえ。知りませんIie, shirimasen.

The phrase I said was “I didn’t know that.” and it’s a past sentence.

This grammar point will be covered in Beginner Lesson Season4 Lesson 14 which is planning to be published on the 7th of October. So please check that lesson too.

When Peterさん and Naomiさん are discussing 勿論, Naomiさん says “I didn’t know that”. The 日本語 sounds like:

しらなかた…

but this isn’t correct. I guess I have not learned this conjugation for 知っている.

有難う御座います

mochiron is not an adjective, so the -i adjective/-na adjective rules do not apply.

kirei ends in -i, but not all adjectives that end in -i are -i adjectives.

a good example of this is 嫌い(kirai) and 好き (suki).
(hate, like)

to be honest, i’ve never seen a native japanese person use the kanji for kirei.
in my experience, i’ve only seen it in katakana, because it’s more cute in katakana. if you use the kanji, again, it gets stiff and too formal.

the -i adjective name comes from the romaji.
and it’s a standard way to refer to these adjectives.

that said,
you brought up a good point and i’ll put the kanji into the pdf tomorrow!!

勿論　もちろん　mochiron
綺麗　きれい kirei

In this lesson, Peter-san made reference to the kanji for kirei and mochiron, for the former to explain why an i-ending word is a na-adjective, and for the latter to enhance the meaning (”no argument”.)

However, I couldn’t locate the kanji spelling of either of these words in my dictionaries, the kanji transciption in hte PDF, or the Kanji Closeup. So what’s the deal here?

Thanks for a great lesson.
Laurel
NYC

I LOVE THESE LESSONS! Thank you sooo much!

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