Comments on: Lower Intermediate #25 - Tempura Tantrum

by: Ken

Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:26:21 +0000

Sorry. I guess instead of just “もん” it’s actually “だもん”　and “たもん” that’s used by the sons.

by: Ken

Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:19:26 +0000

Hmmm. This はず thing is a bit perplexing. It’s really not quite like “should be” or “ought to be” in English, is it?

For example, #3 son says:
かぼちゃのてんぷらでしょう?　僕、かぼちゃ嫌いだもん。　食べるはずないよ。

Isn’t はず here more like “would” as in “I wouldn’t have eaten it” rather than “I ought not to have eaten it”?

Also, お母さん says “夕飯のうどんに載せるはずだったのに。”

Isn’t that はず more like “intend”?

This term doesn’t seem to have a clear English equivalent.

Also, wondered about the “もん” at the end of several sentences by the 3 sons. What is the meaning/purpose?

Thanks!

by: Elisabeth

Tue, 29 May 2007 09:57:14 +0000

Slow is good, but I don’t like it when it is “slow motion” slow. Sometimes the ‘action voices’ are bit hard to understand at first.

But I really enjoy whatever you serve up …
Thank you,
Elisabeth

by: Sindy

Sat, 26 May 2007 19:41:52 +0000

JP101 Crew and Listeners!

My family and are very talkers when we eat, we just talk about all topic of our topics that matter to us.

I like both parts fast and slow so it’s fine what your doing, it really helps alot.

Hurrah to the Playstation mention and I’m also like a physco too! S_R_C

by: markystar

Fri, 25 May 2007 09:39:06 +0000

not much, i think. in our database we have both words as searchable items, so if the conversation is not formal japanese, i usually enter both so the search results will be the same (at least for lessons i’ve been responsible for publishing).

i sort of think of them in groups (with some overlapping, because you can be informal and still be polite)
here’s how i think of it in my mind:
2 groups of 3 levels, from low to high register.

INFORMAL
— rude/crass
— casual
— polite

FORMAL
— polite
— humble
— honorific

this is just my personal system. i’m interested in how others think about it.

marky

by: Alain

Fri, 25 May 2007 09:26:37 +0000

About the politeness level:
What’s the difference in english beetween “casual” and “informal”?

by: デボン

Fri, 25 May 2007 04:05:09 +0000

I like the slow part as well because I can practice speaking along with them. I can’t do that at the fast speed. Because I don’t often get speaking practice this is really important for me!

by: bakaneko

Thu, 24 May 2007 23:17:39 +0000

I like to keep the slow speed. It helps me to be certain how each word should be pronounced. Whenever I’m not sure how a certain word should be pronounced, I usually replay the slow part a few times and then the regular speed one time.

by: Robert

Thu, 24 May 2007 20:13:48 +0000

Good lesson really enjoyed it .
I agree not needing the slower speeed .I always skip it.

by: maxiewawa

Thu, 24 May 2007 12:35:32 +0000

Sounds like a great lesson, I’m just listening to the ゆっくり part.

Does anyone else think that we don’t really need the slow part at this level? Can we have a show of hands for all those who’d appreciate the slower speed dialogue being cut from lower intermediate lessons?

*tentatively raises hand*