Comments on: Beginner Lesson S2 #13 - It’s Good to be the King http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/ Learn Japanese with Daily Podcasts from Tokyo Whether you are Japan-bound or a seasoned speaker, our lessons offer something for everyone. We incorporate culture and current issues into each episode to give the most informative, both linguistically and culturally, podcasts possible. For those of you with just the plane ride to prepare, check our survival phrase series at Japanesepod101.com. One of these phrases just might turn your trip into the best one ever! Yoroshiku O-negai Shimasu! Mon, 21 May 2012 15:18:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Alyssa http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-607874 Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:17:20 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-607874 I looked for opportunities to use "きもかわ" today, but none came up. :cry: I shall stay on the look-out. :wink: I looked for opportunities to use “きもかわ” today, but none came up. :cry:
I shall stay on the look-out. :wink:

]]> by: jack kim http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-604574 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:19:08 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-604574 what is キモカワ is it just like かわいい？ what is キモカワ

is it just like かわいい？

]]> by: Flame http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-76852 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:22:00 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-76852 Yes, it is the same in South Korea. It's amazing how many similarities there are between South Korea and Japan. ^_^ Yes, it is the same in South Korea. It’s amazing how many similarities there are between South Korea and Japan. ^_^

]]> by: Bob1 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-66563 Fri, 16 Feb 2007 04:09:33 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-66563 Yoshi-kai's portrayal of the boss was so vivid! I could just picture him gobbling up the chocolates as he was talking! And then the strange fact that the hand-made chocolates were from Take, and his extreme difficulty to get that name past his lips. I had to refrain from rolling on the train carriage floor with laughter! Yoshi-kai’s portrayal of the boss was so vivid! I could just picture him gobbling up the chocolates as he was talking! And then the strange fact that the hand-made chocolates were from Take, and his extreme difficulty to get that name past his lips. I had to refrain from rolling on the train carriage floor with laughter!

]]> by: marky star http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-66101 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:56:22 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-66101 良かったぞ！ i got really lucky this year. i got a mystery チョコがいっぱい袋 (bagful of of chocolate) and girlfriend made 手作りチョコ for me.... 今からホワイトデーのplan考えるよ！:mrgreen: 良かったぞ！

i got really lucky this year.
i got a mystery チョコがいっぱい袋 (bagful of of chocolate) and girlfriend made 手作りチョコ for me….

今からホワイトデーのplan考えるよ！ :mrgreen:

]]> by: annie http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65941 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:04:02 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65941 I got some 手作り世話チョコ from one of my students today. He's one of my special ed students and before he came into the teacher's office, I could here the tannin sensei coaching him on the appropriate Japanese to use. But, he could pull out the "Thank you very much" on his own. I got some 手作り世話チョコ from one of my students today.

He’s one of my special ed students and before he came into the teacher’s office, I could here the tannin sensei coaching him on the appropriate Japanese to use. But, he could pull out the “Thank you very much” on his own.

]]> by: nanaka http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65906 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:43:49 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65906 Nathan-san, thanks for your explaination. So compared to ’美味い’、’旨い’ has a wider range of usage. Say, if you were invited to a dinner party, you hated the food there, but you can still use 'umai', either because you liked the atmosphere there, or just for better etiquette. ^_^ Laura-san, that human-faced dog is really horrifying, although other combinations of animal-human can be cute. ななか Nathan-san, thanks for your explaination.

So compared to ’美味い’、’旨い’ has a wider range of usage. Say, if you were invited to a dinner party, you hated the food there, but you can still use ‘umai’, either because you liked the atmosphere there, or just for better etiquette. ^_^

Laura-san, that human-faced dog is really horrifying, although other combinations of animal-human can be cute.

ななか

]]> by: Barbara http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65875 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:36:29 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65875 Laura-san, I thought I had seen some ugly dogs! :shock: Laura-san,
I thought I had seen some ugly dogs! :shock:

]]> by: Barbara http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65874 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:32:58 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65874 Alan-san, strange, no ???s for me. Alan-san,
strange, no ???s for me.

]]> by: Eran http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65855 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:05:42 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65855 Alan-san, We have rectified the character set issue (Kanji showing up as ????). Thanks as always for being our eyes and ears ;) Eran Alan-san,

We have rectified the character set issue (Kanji showing up as ????).

Thanks as always for being our eyes and ears ;)

Eran

]]> by: Alan http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65847 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:54:24 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65847 Eranさん、Thanks for the reply. No worries :grin: kimochi ga warui + kawaii = kimokawa (キモカワ) Sort of horrifying, but you still kind of like it. It's tempting to ask for more usage examples :twisted: Eranさん、Thanks for the reply. No worries :grin:

kimochi ga warui + kawaii = kimokawa (キモカワ)
Sort of horrifying, but you still kind of like it. It’s tempting to ask for more usage examples :twisted:

]]> by: Eran http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65823 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:02:00 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65823 Alan-san, We are aware of this issue and are working on a resolution. Apologies for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. Eran Alan-san,

We are aware of this issue and are working on a resolution. Apologies for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

Eran

]]> by: Alan http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65819 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 04:55:37 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65819 Interesting.  I can read my own post, and Nathan's, but all the kanji in earlier ones are still unreadable.  Eranさん have any changes been made to the publishing system? Interesting.  I can read my own post, and Nathan’s, but all the kanji in earlier ones are still unreadable.  Eranさん have any changes been made to the publishing system?

]]> by: Alan http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65818 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 04:53:12 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65818 Apart from Nathan's last post above, all the kanji in the comment's sections have suddenly become unreadable, appearing as '?????'.  I tried all combinations of Text Encoding settings in the browser (both safari & firefox), but it's still not working for me.  This means I can't read the transcipts in Miki's blogs at the moment, which is a shame.  Anyone else having difficulties or is this just me? Since Nathan's post above is reasonable, there's a fair chance the following will be readable, but I can't tell until after posting :???: 漢字を読めませんか。「????」と読みますか。 Apart from Nathan’s last post above, all the kanji in the comment’s sections have suddenly become unreadable, appearing as ‘?????’.  I tried all combinations of Text Encoding settings in the browser (both safari & firefox), but it’s still not working for me.  This means I can’t read the transcipts in Miki’s blogs at the moment, which is a shame.  Anyone else having difficulties or is this just me?

Since Nathan’s post above is reasonable, there’s a fair chance the following will be readable, but I can’t tell until after posting :???:

漢字を読めませんか。「????」と読みますか。

]]> by: Nathan http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65761 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:13:57 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2007/02/14/beginner-lesson-s2-13-its-good-to-be-the-king/#comment-65761 Alain-san, Thanks for the tip! :smile: Vicky-san, Happy Valentine's Day! :grin: nanaka-san, I'm not quite sure who chose the kanji, but I doubt that there was a whole lot of deliberation in choosing the kanji :wink: 美味い, 旨い, and 甘い all carry the meaning of good taste, as you mentioned. Of course, different kanji will give a different feel, nuance, etc. since they carry their own meaning. You'll see this technique used often in literature - the author will choose a non-standard kanji in order to attempt to express a specific nuance or feeling. As for umai, I myself have not noticed 甘い used in this role yet, and because it is the same as amai, it's hard to tell from Google how common it may be. 旨い has just a few more hits than 美味い. Since I am not Japanese and am still learning, I cannot really accurately comment on the nuances, but I read a number of opinions, and can't seem to find a consensus. You can note that much like mazui can be used to describe a circumstance, so can umai, and in this case you use 旨い. 美味い, on the other hand, is only used for taste, I believe, and is ateji coming from 美味 (bimi) - good flavor. 旨い seems to be stronger from the opinions that I read, but more opinions are needed. Perhaps some of our Japanese listeners (I know there are a few out there) can chime in! :smile: Alain-san,

Thanks for the tip! :smile:

Vicky-san,

Happy Valentine’s Day! :grin:

nanaka-san,

I’m not quite sure who chose the kanji, but I doubt that there was a whole lot of deliberation in choosing the kanji :wink: 美味い, 旨い, and 甘い all carry the meaning of good taste, as you mentioned. Of course, different kanji will give a different feel, nuance, etc. since they carry their own meaning. You’ll see this technique used often in literature - the author will choose a non-standard kanji in order to attempt to express a specific nuance or feeling. As for umai, I myself have not noticed 甘い used in this role yet, and because it is the same as amai, it’s hard to tell from Google how common it may be. 旨い has just a few more hits than 美味い. Since I am not Japanese and am still learning, I cannot really accurately comment on the nuances, but I read a number of opinions, and can’t seem to find a consensus. You can note that much like mazui can be used to describe a circumstance, so can umai, and in this case you use 旨い. 美味い, on the other hand, is only used for taste, I believe, and is ateji coming from 美味 (bimi) - good flavor. 旨い seems to be stronger from the opinions that I read, but more opinions are needed. Perhaps some of our Japanese listeners (I know there are a few out there) can chime in! :smile:

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