Learn intermediate Japanese with JapanesePod101.com! Join Agnes as she starts her new life in the bustling city of Tokyo, Japan. Today, in day three of her traveblogue, Agnes is searching for a place to stay. Follow Agnes to the fudousanya, or real-estate agent, to enquire about finding a wanruumu. After listening, stop by JapanesePod101.com for the accompanying materials, and be sure to leave us a post!
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15 Responses to “Intermediate Lesson #38 - My Tokyo Traveblogue - Day 3”
JapanesePod101.com says:
December 8th, 2006 at 8:56 pm
Mina-san, we hope you have a great weekend wherever you are! 
John C. Briggs says:
December 9th, 2006 at 2:25 am
The intro in the MP3 says this is Lesson 37 but it should be Lesson 38. I guess this makes up for last week when you told us in the MP3 that it as Lesson 38 when it was Lesson 37. Are you TRYING to confuse us.
じゃ また
ジョン
John C. Briggs says:
December 9th, 2006 at 3:02 am
Perhaps someone can enlighten me on this structure.
きょうはこれからほかのところをみせないといけないから、
He is saying that he has to show another place. But here uses みせない. Doesn’t that mean that he is NOT SHOWING the other place. Then いけない means he can’t go, it is not possible.
This doesn’t make sense to me.
Is this use of the double negative used to imply (must)?
Now I am worried that this is something I was supposed to have learned for JLPT Level 3.
ありがとう
ジョン
Jason says:
December 9th, 2006 at 3:42 am
The ～ないといけない construction with verbs is a more informal version of the obligation construction, ～なくてはいけない. It’s made up of:
[non-past, neg verb] + と + いけない
This と is the conditional と, for which in S1とS2, S2 is understood to be a natural consequence of S1. The いけない is NOT the negative, potential form of 行く. It’s the negative of the verb いける, which means to be good or be good at. It’s the same いけない as in the ～なくては version.
So the construction literally means, “if X doesn’t Y, then as a natural consequnce, it’ll be bad.” Where X is the subject and Y is the action. Or much more simply, “X has to do Y.”
John C. Briggs says:
December 9th, 2006 at 3:51 am
Jasonさん,
Thank you very much for this clear explanation. I didn’t know about the verb “いける” and it is not in my Pocket PC dictionary. I did find it on JDIC.
So the sentence is something like “If I don’t show the other places, it would be bad…”
Thanks
ジョン
matt says:
December 9th, 2006 at 4:36 am
Hello
Just want to say a huge thanks to everyone at JP101!
I sat san kyuu in london last weekend. I’m pretty sure I passed. I’m not usually a confident person, but thanks to this site I have improved so much in just a few months.
keep up the good work.
John C. Briggs says:
December 9th, 2006 at 5:25 am
Mattさん,
Did you see Nick T. and Steve C. at the JLPT? Seems like a lot of people took the JLPT 3級 in London.
また ね
ジョン
Carlo says:
December 9th, 2006 at 5:41 pm
Definitely another great episode!!!
I think that these Intermediate Lessons are invaluable for all the people aiming at 日本語能力試験２級 next year. 
どうもありがとう!!!
カルロ 
maxiewawa says:
December 9th, 2006 at 7:44 pm
すごい！
How accurate are the prices quoted in this lesson? Also, what happens after you decide on a place? How much is a deposit? Any other charges?
Also, ちょっと意見がある。
よし先生はアメリカにいるとき、ピータの家にすんで、ピータ先生は日本に住んだら、よし先生と一緒に住むのはどう？それなら、引越しする必要はない。
Sindy says:
December 10th, 2006 at 7:17 am
Hey Carlo-san long time you haven’t post I only see you post on Miki-san blogs only eehhh! good to see your posts!
Hey Matt-san thanks for sharing us that you went to do the test in LONDON WOW! a great city too! Good Luck my friend you’ll pass I feel confident of it ok!
About today’s lesson great Day 3? You guys must have started last month because its the first time I see it and listen to it! 
S_R_C
annie says:
December 10th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
i think that the prices are fairly representative for places in Japan, excluding Tokyo. 50,000 inside Tokyo seems a bit low, but not impossible to find.
what ends up costing you a lot though are things like key money (礼金 reikin), deposit, and agent fees, which can be more than 4 times your monthly rent.
When I lived 45 minutes from Tokyo (in Chiba prefecture), I was paying 54,000/month. It was an older apartment, with a 6 mat room, a 8-9 mat room, a large kitchen, and a large balcony. about 8 minutes from the nearest station.
Yoshi says:
December 12th, 2006 at 7:52 pm
maxiewawa-san,
The prices are accurate. Well the prices varies but these are the common prices that ordinary people would pay. And what annie-san described is perfect to your question.
And today, there are places that don’t require those things, too.
And about your suggestion, no thanks! But Peter-san was saying that he might wanna live with you in Shanghai.
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Grammar: wa arimasen ka, wa nai desu ka | Function: searching for an apartment | Politeness Level: Polite
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