Comments on: Japanese Culture Class #10 - Warikan (Splitting the Bill) http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/ Learn Japanese with Daily Podcasts from Tokyo Whether you are Japan-bound or a seasoned speaker, our lessons offer something for everyone. We incorporate culture and current issues into each episode to give the most informative, both linguistically and culturally, podcasts possible. For those of you with just the plane ride to prepare, check our survival phrase series at Japanesepod101.com. One of these phrases just might turn your trip into the best one ever! Yoroshiku O-negai Shimasu! Thu, 17 May 2012 00:53:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Motoko http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-617664 Fri, 23 Mar 2012 07:29:23 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-617664 Hi everyone, Thank you for the interesting customs in your country. I usually do warikan.:roll: It is comfortable, especially when I am with friends. But some friends pay more than I do because they earn much more than I.:lol: Hi everyone,
Thank you for the interesting customs in your country.
I usually do warikan. :roll: It is comfortable, especially when I am with friends.
But some friends pay more than I do because they earn much more than I. :lol:

]]> by: wout http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-617616 Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:15:20 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-617616 hi i think i would be a warikan gachi where i come from i ussually say i eat the same amount as 5 people if i cook for myself i ussually takes recepies for atleast 4 people ah another thing you would not want to do is point with your chopsticks thats definitly a no go bye :mrgreen: hi

i think i would be a warikan gachi
where i come from i ussually say i eat the same amount as 5 people
if i cook for myself i ussually takes recepies for atleast 4 people

ah another thing you would not want to do is point with your chopsticks thats definitly a no go

bye :mrgreen:

]]> by: Carin http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-607490 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:02:20 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-607490 My first 飲み会 experience, I went with my whole class (I was an exchange student at the time) to a restaurant. We had some food and drink, and almost at the end of it I decided I wanted some more to drink so I ordered more from the waiter. Due to my level of Japanese was quite low at the time, instead of a glass of beer he brought a pitcher of it. And because it was so late and at the end I ended up drinking almost all of it as no one else wanted any more... However, I ended up only paying 500yen! Win! ^^ My first 飲み会 experience, I went with my whole class (I was an exchange student at the time) to a restaurant. We had some food and drink, and almost at the end of it I decided I wanted some more to drink so I ordered more from the waiter. Due to my level of Japanese was quite low at the time, instead of a glass of beer he brought a pitcher of it. And because it was so late and at the end I ended up drinking almost all of it as no one else wanted any more…

However, I ended up only paying 500yen! Win! ^^

]]> by: Lilly http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-605913 Wed, 10 Aug 2011 03:11:03 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-605913 In China, if a group of friends go out for a meal, in case of split bill happened, we just divide the bill equally, the amount of food every person ordered is ignored.But usually, there will be one person paying the full bill, some time later, other person in the group will invite that person for thank. In China, if a group of friends go out for a meal, in case of split bill happened, we just divide the bill equally, the amount of food every person ordered is ignored.But usually, there will be one person paying the full bill, some time later, other person in the group will invite that person for thank.

]]> by: Marcela http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-120590 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:16:01 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-120590 Hi all, In Spain, warikan is also customary, but we call it "pagar a escote" ("pay by shares"). We divide the bill into equal parts. But most times someone pays the whole bill, and next time you have dinner with the same people another person pays, and so on. "Escote" is an old word for "share" (still used in Portugal with this meaning). Nowadays it is only used for low neck in women dresses or blouses, and few people know the old meaning. We are not so different! Hi all,

In Spain, warikan is also customary, but we call it “pagar a escote” (”pay by shares”). We divide the bill into equal parts. But most times someone pays the whole bill, and next time you have dinner with the same people another person pays, and so on.

“Escote” is an old word for “share” (still used in Portugal with this meaning). Nowadays it is only used for low neck in women dresses or blouses, and few people know the old meaning.

We are not so different!

]]> by: Bellis http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-4129 Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:26:26 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-4129 Actually I think normally when my friends and I go to Izakaya in Japan, we automatically know it's Warikan even without specifying it's Warikan beforehand. Because at Izakaya, everyone share the food. Whereas for restaurants or eateries, people pay what they order since the food amount is for an individual. Maybe I'm Asian that's why this kind of food culture is already in me. Sometimes when 3 of us ordered dishes that could be shared among the 3 of us, but another friend is eating her ordered food but wished to eat a bit of ours (just try), we won't ask her to pay even though she did ate. Actually I think normally when my friends and I go to Izakaya in Japan, we automatically know it’s Warikan even without specifying it’s Warikan beforehand.

Because at Izakaya, everyone share the food. Whereas for restaurants or eateries, people pay what they order since the food amount is for an individual.

Maybe I’m Asian that’s why this kind of food culture is already in me. Sometimes when 3 of us ordered dishes that could be shared among the 3 of us, but another friend is eating her ordered food but wished to eat a bit of ours (just try), we won’t ask her to pay even though she did ate.

]]> by: René Malenfant http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-3122 Sat, 01 Apr 2006 07:37:00 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-3122 Should note that Warikan is informal slang. The formal (but rarely-used) word is: 割り前勘定 ("Warimae Kanjou") Should note that Warikan is informal slang.
The formal (but rarely-used) word is:
割り前勘定 (”Warimae Kanjou”)

]]> by: Justin http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-2313 Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:11:19 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-2313 Another peice of etiquette. Keep your hands above the table. In the US we frequently keep our hands under the table so it is natural for us. My Japanese ex-girlfriend's father actually asked me to keep my hands above the table when eating at their home. It was kind of unconfortable for me. Rie told me it had something to do with emperors and knifes and assassinations or something. I swear, I wasn't going to kill him. Another peice of etiquette. Keep your hands above the table. In the US we frequently keep our hands under the table so it is natural for us. My Japanese ex-girlfriend’s father actually asked me to keep my hands above the table when eating at their home. It was kind of unconfortable for me.

Rie told me it had something to do with emperors and knifes and assassinations or something. I swear, I wasn’t going to kill him.

]]> by: Ben http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-2246 Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:05:33 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-2246 Hi I am from New Zealand and I am looking for friends from Japan I write my own hip hop songs and have just recorded a song that is half english and half Japanese I want to learn more japanese and if you want to get in contact respond to this e mail and they will notify me and I will get back to you I am also interested in finding out what the hip hop scene is like in Nihon Thanks Ben Hi I am from New Zealand and I am looking for friends from Japan
I write my own hip hop songs and have just recorded a song that is half english and half Japanese
I want to learn more japanese and if you want to get in contact respond to this e mail and they will notify me and I will get back to you
I am also interested in finding out what the hip hop scene is like in Nihon
Thanks
Ben

]]> by: ダステｲ http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-2079 Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:36:02 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-2079 Another etiquette tip I learned in Japan was to not pour your own beer. Sometimes when you order beer, it will come in the bottle with a glass. At a bar, the bartender will usually pour it for you. At a restaurant , it's best to let someone at the table pour your beer for you. And in turn you pour beer for other people. At least until everyone is a little drunk then the rule is less strict. The same can be said for food as well. It's best to serve others before serving yourself. Another etiquette tip I learned in Japan was to not pour your own beer. Sometimes when you order beer, it will come in the bottle with a glass. At a bar, the bartender will usually pour it for you. At a restaurant , it’s best to let someone at the table pour your beer for you. And in turn you pour beer for other people. At least until everyone is a little drunk then the rule is less strict.

The same can be said for food as well. It’s best to serve others before serving yourself.

]]> by: Ian http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-2032 Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:04:30 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-2032 This was the first podcast of JapanesePod101.com that I have listened to. I loved it! You are both very engaging and fun teachers. I look forward to many more great episodes! This was the first podcast of JapanesePod101.com that I have listened to. I loved it! You are both very engaging and fun teachers. I look forward to many more great episodes!

]]> by: Nate http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-2027 Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:29:45 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-2027 Hatsumi-san - great to hear from you. I hope you are well. Great lesson! Lots of good information. Hatsumi-san - great to hear from you. I hope you are well.

Great lesson! Lots of good information.

]]> by: Peter http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-2019 Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:00:14 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-2019 Ajit-san, ouch. That story hurt! One spoonful, 1/3 is tough. :shock:Thanks for the story! Please keep them coming. Nathan-san, I like your style.:grin: Gevorg-san, thanks for the links!:grin: Fabi-san, thanks for the info on the situation in Germany. This will come in handy when I visit.:grin: Hatsumi-san!!!:grin: Great to hear from you! How are you? CP-san, betsu, betsu・べつべつ・別々:grin: Mei-ling-san, thanks for the post! Please keep them coming. Yes, common sense is key in these things.:wink: Vynnie-san, thanks for the info on your situation. Please try to start using the word with your friends.:wink: Matt S.-san, are you from the East coast too??:grin: Ormo-san, yes, you guys pay a lot over there!! I could afford food in London!:shock: JP-san, warikan-gachi!:grin: Jay-san, thanks for the New Zealand info! Very interesting. Yes, if you were in Japan, I'd ask you to join us everytime for the warikan!:wink: Curt-san, some good points. Yes, in my school situation our Professor usually pays half, while the other students pay an equal amount each. I can guarantee you that while my grades are not in the top 90 percent tile, my profit at the eat outs are.:wink: And eating out at the company is usually the same, a big shot will through in a nice chunk of change, and the remaining bill becomes warikan. Eating out with working friends is always warikan. At least that is my personal experience.:grin: And pretty much that's what it comes down too.:grin: Andreas-san, thanks for the story! This is similiar to the way I do it back home. Ajit-san, ouch. That story hurt! One spoonful, 1/3 is tough. :shock: Thanks for the story! Please keep them coming.

Nathan-san, I like your style. :grin:

Gevorg-san, thanks for the links! :grin:

Fabi-san, thanks for the info on the situation in Germany. This will come in handy when I visit. :grin:

Hatsumi-san!!! :grin: Great to hear from you! How are you?

CP-san, betsu, betsu・べつべつ・別々 :grin:

Mei-ling-san, thanks for the post! Please keep them coming. Yes, common sense is key in these things. :wink:

Vynnie-san, thanks for the info on your situation. Please try to start using the word with your friends. :wink:

Matt S.-san, are you from the East coast too?? :grin:

Ormo-san, yes, you guys pay a lot over there!! I could afford food in London! :shock:

JP-san, warikan-gachi! :grin:

Jay-san, thanks for the New Zealand info! Very interesting. Yes, if you were in Japan, I’d ask you to join us everytime for the warikan! :wink:

Curt-san, some good points. Yes, in my school situation our Professor usually pays half, while the other students pay an equal amount each. I can guarantee you that while my grades are not in the top 90 percent tile, my profit at the eat outs are. :wink: And eating out at the company is usually the same, a big shot will through in a nice chunk of change, and the remaining bill becomes warikan. Eating out with working friends is always warikan. At least that is my personal experience. :grin: And pretty much that’s what it comes down too. :grin:

Andreas-san, thanks for the story! This is similiar to the way I do it back home.

]]> by: Andreas http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-2001 Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:15:33 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-2001 I enjoyed this discussion of ways to split the bill. General accepted practice with the people I know is to pass the bill around the table with each person contributing according to what they ordered with a little extra for the tip. This generally works out pretty well. Sometimes an invite to a meal is paid for by the person inviting. I was raised this way, and when I do out of the blue invite someone, it is my general practice to at least offer to pay for the meal. If they insist on splitting the bill, I won't argue with them. I enjoyed this discussion of ways to split the bill. General accepted practice with the people I know is to pass the bill around the table with each person contributing according to what they ordered with a little extra for the tip. This generally works out pretty well. Sometimes an invite to a meal is paid for by the person inviting. I was raised this way, and when I do out of the blue invite someone, it is my general practice to at least offer to pay for the meal. If they insist on splitting the bill, I won’t argue with them.

]]> by: Curt http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-1997 Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:55:24 +0000 http://www.japanesepod101.com/2006/03/11/japanese-culture-class-10-warikan-splitting-the-bill/#comment-1997 Thanks for the podcast - I'm learning lots, though I've been in Japan for 5 years (2 in Okinawa). Actually, I think you are over-stating 'warikan'. It doesn't always happen at Japanese restaurants, only when you eat in groups and especially at izakaya places. Quite a few of the places I go don't offer torizara at all, even when we eat in groups. Perhaps these are serving more western types of food - but not always. And when we do warikan, we often scale it according to position or consumption. Or the profs pay a huge portion. These days, many of the places we go to are 'nomihodai' or 'tabehodai', and our shares are the same regardless. Thanks for the podcast - I’m learning lots, though I’ve been in Japan for 5 years (2 in Okinawa).

Actually, I think you are over-stating ‘warikan’. It doesn’t always happen at Japanese restaurants, only when you eat in groups and especially at izakaya places. Quite a few of the places I go don’t offer torizara at all, even when we eat in groups. Perhaps these are serving more western types of food - but not always.

And when we do warikan, we often scale it according to position or consumption. Or the profs pay a huge portion.

These days, many of the places we go to are ‘nomihodai’ or ‘tabehodai’, and our shares are the same regardless.

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